Silent_Assassin Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Sorry in advance for this "Wot am bestest" thread. I'm planning on getting an ICS GLM next month for some CQB games but I don't really fancy spending a few hundred Pounds on gas grenades. Can anyone recommend some good, cheap, 40mm gas grenades for less than £20 each? I don't mind importing so that's not an issue. I've seen these on EB Airsoft:- http://www.ebairsoft.com/core-cog0306-plastic-light-40mm-shower-p-6123.html http://www.ebairsoft.com/cog0202g-40mm-shower-72rds-p-5817.html Does anyone know if they're any good? Sorry for the noobish questions but in my 7 years of Airsoft I've never used/owned gas grenades or launchers. Josh Link to post Share on other sites
rufio52000 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Just in my little bit of poking around, I found these. http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AC-UPE-ICS-M158.htm They seem pretty cool. I am there with you though. In all of the time of playing airsoft, I have never used one either. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/acatalog/ASG-40mm-Grenade--90-round--AS17336.html#.UOqF53wgGSM Link to post Share on other sites
nautilus Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I use the ICS shot grenades. Cheap and cheeful, and only three parts in the whole grenade. http://www.gunsmithbaton.com/products/detail.php?product_id=673 Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Honestly dont buy cheap 40mm nades. I made that mistake once, bought x6 Pro-Arms grenades used them with Propane. Used then around 20 or so times until one day when I had just loaded them up, placed them face down in my vest. Went to get a cup of tea, luckily my mate called my name, I turned my head. BANG, BANG, BANG, 2 of them went off flew out of my pouch hit the 40ft ceiling, then set off the other 2. Was like a suicide bomber! Needless to say I threw them all away. What had happend was the fireing pins on the bottom actually blew out, broke the plastic out. Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/acatalog/ASG-40mm-Grenade--90-round--AS17336.html#.UOqF53wgGSM Cheers Azubi, this looks great and I like the fact that I can fill it with as many bb's as I need (or other stuff ). Good price too! Honestly dont buy cheap 40mm nades. I made that mistake once, bought x6 Pro-Arms grenades used them with Propane. Used then around 20 or so times until one day when I had just loaded them up, placed them face down in my vest. Went to get a cup of tea, luckily my mate called my name, I turned my head. BANG, BANG, BANG, 2 of them went off flew out of my pouch hit the 40ft ceiling, then set off the other 2. Was like a suicide bomber! Needless to say I threw them all away. What had happend was the fireing pins on the bottom actually blew out, broke the plastic out. Thanks for the advice bankz5152. I've worked on a 40mm before when a friend needed one fixing and that was a cheap nasty type. However China does produce some gems which is what I'm trying to hopefully find. Link to post Share on other sites
daladzor Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I've heard a fair few good things about the S-Thunder shells.However I'd echo bankz5152's advice of not going for the cheaper shells, mainly due to malfunctions like he had, or just flat failure of fill valves or being mishapen ( I own 6 pro arms ones that are all misshapen and wont fit in the majority of launchers I own.)From personal experiences with Moscarts, you get what you pay for and whilst they are expensive I've never had issues with madbull shells (which can be found at reasonable costs secondhand) Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I'd say madbull shells are the way to go, I've had pro-arms(actualyl when they were still vanaras) shells and only 1 of them fire's reliably, the others have just developed problems over the years and I'm no noob when it comes to gas gubbins. They're just so badly put together it takes a lot of fiddling to get them to work, at all. Best of sticking to the madbull shells, crying each time you buy one, but knowing with proper care and maintenance they'll last and fire reliably. Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I've just found these on Ebay priced at £24, £30 & £34 for 60rnds, 84rnds & 120rnds respectively. They have got some good reviews and they're CNC aluminium http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6mm-BB-gas-powered-M203-40mm-Grenade-60-84-120-rounds-for-Airsoft-or-Paintball-/181056846035?pt=UK_SportingGoods_OtherSports&var=&hash=item2a27d438d3 What do you guys think? Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I bought those factory surplus vanaras POM-shells and still love em. Thicker main O-ring to turn them into "resettable" and no leaks since then. Full POM so i wont run em past propane/greengas. If the current Vanaras shells use the same idea and i'd imagine so, they would be my choise. If not "tested and working", atleast fixable and "working since then" Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 What do you guys think? I've got some and they are sub par as far as I am concerned. Plus all those little individual barrels take forever to reload. The single big hole type really is so much easier and I find they shoot better than the other, more traditional, style of moscart. Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I've got some and they are sub par as far as I am concerned. Plus all those little individual barrels take forever to reload. The single big hole type really is so much easier and I find they shoot better than the other, more traditional, style of moscart. Yer I think this is the best option. Plus it'll be cheaper on ammo as I can just load them with used (but unbroken!) bb's Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I actually find my Vanaras V2 (POM shell, aluminum casing) more reliable than the Madbulls a mate of mine keeps bringing back in for repairs. Most of the problems are from the valve getting deformed as it's made of aluminum while the lock (ball bearings) is made of steel. Actually just about all other nades are made this way and eventually the holes where the bearings sit in get deformed and needs to be corrected or the lock wont engage. On the Vanaras, the valve and lock are all in steel. Problem with them however is that the main valve o-ring has a habit of shrinking a bit making it not hold gas and oddly enough the only solution I've found to work, other than replacing them entirely is to just stretch the o-ring out a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I actually find my Vanaras V2 (POM shell, aluminum casing) more reliable than the Madbulls a mate of mine keeps bringing back in for repairs. Most of the problems are from the valve getting deformed as it's made of aluminum while the lock (ball bearings) is made of steel. Actually just about all other nades are made this way and eventually the holes where the bearings sit in get deformed and needs to be corrected or the lock wont engage. On the Vanaras, the valve and lock are all in steel. Problem with them however is that the main valve o-ring has a habit of shrinking a bit making it not hold gas and oddly enough the only solution I've found to work, other than replacing them entirely is to just stretch the o-ring out a bit. the acetone trick work there? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Only for a while then it just shrinks back down again. Could be the material as I don't think it's nitrile (green color) which responds pretty well to the acetone trick. Weird thing is, it only really shrinks to the point of leaking if it's stored without gas for more than a day. With gas it's fine as long as you keep using it. Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've managed to pick up an ICS GLM from Zeroin for £200 shipped with 4x A&K shells & 2x Zeta lab 84 rd shells. Are these shells any good? I was still thinking of picking up some ASG 'nade anyway so I might flog these on to help pay for that. Link to post Share on other sites
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