i_is_oli Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 KJW Para Ordnance P14.45 Review- Full Metal Version Introduction Having always loved the Kimber in the film SWAT, I thought to myself, what gun can i get that looks relatively similar, but at a cheaper price. I went with the TM Hicapa 5.1, and have been using this for a few months. As time passed the bumper on the mag was really starting to annoy me, and the fact that the gun was not a copy, also annoyed me. I looked around until I came to a shop that stocked the Full Metal Para Ordnance. As with many retailers that have have "bad reputations" i was slightly reluctant to place an order at first, however, after reassurance from 'softers who have had this gun, i decided to buy it. First Impressions When i unwrapped the box out of the reams of bubblewrap, all i could see was a plain white flimsy box. Upon opening the box i saw a very heavy looking pistol, with a loading rod and manuals. I proceeded to pick up the pistol, and the first thing i felt was the cool feel of the metal and the weight in comparison to other pistols i have, and have had. Loading Just like the ABS model the magazine bares a double stack design. This is not a mistake, but a replication of the real Para Ordnance. I had no trouble whatsover loading the magazine, it was as easy as "1,2,3". I proceeded to taking my can of Abbey Ultra gas to the magazine, and giving around a 7 second burst to fill the mag. Due to the nature of the slide AND the frame being full metal, i am going to use Green Gas in the future, enabling a smoother and more rapid cycling of the slide. Nevertheless, Abbey Ultra did work fine. Looks Para Ordnance's are like marmite; you either love them or you hate them. This is the same with the KJW version. The slide is very bare, only sporting:- KJWorks Made in Taiwan Engraved onto the right side of the slide. The frame is very solid, with no extremely tacky seamlines like other manufacturers. The grips bare the "KJ" logo in fancy italics. I know that the grips can be changed for other grips, but only if longer screws are purchased or machined. The outer barrel is silver and gives the look of the overall gun a definite positive boost. The hammer is of a skeleton nature, and looks as good as a hammer can look! It has the standard 3 positions: Cocked, Decocked, and Uncocked. The magazine is lighter than i expected, featuring the double stack feature, and being made entirely of metal. It slides easily into the gun, making a reassuring "click" as it enters. To release the magazine just press the release button, and it just falls out. Build Quality Much like with the ABS version, and with other GBBs there is a slight rattle when the magazine is out of the gun, however, when it is in, the rattle is very faint, and the gun feels very sturdy in your hand. The KJW Para Ordnance sports the following metal parts: - 1. Metal Slide & Outer/Inner Barrels 2. Metal Body Frame 3. Metal Magazine & Magazine Catch 4. Metal Firing Trigger & Hammer 5. Metal Recoil System 6. Metal Slide Level Lock 7. Metal Tactical Sight 8. Metal Safety Lock The sites are very clear, making aiming extremely easy. Adjustable Hop Up on this model makes it a very strong competitor in todays airsoft world, and it is adjusted just like on the TM Hicapa, P226 etc: through taking the slide off, and turning the dial inside. Performance After loading the magazine up with gas and BBs, i took to my garden. Having cocked the gun and hearing a very reassuring "clink" as the slide returns to its standard position, i proceeded to aiming, and pulling the trigger. Even on Abbey Ultra Gas, the speed the slide cycled at was promising. I fired a whole magazines worth of BBs, with the hop up set perfectly. It was very accurate, causing me to realise this will be a worth skirmish sidearm. Overall What do you get for your money?..I hear you ask. Well...you get a very solid, well machined pistol, that gives a good solid blowback, and is as accurate as the majority of any other GBBs. KJW are up and coming as quality manufacturers, and I am very impressed with what i have seen from my Para Ordnance Looks8/10- You have to like the model! Build Quality8/10 Performance9/10 Overall9/10 I would definitely recommend this pistol to anyone considering buying a first, or indeed another Gas Blowback for their collection. Pics will follow soon Oli Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Death By Cadbury Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 if you can take a picture of the hopup wheel on the underside of the slide id love to see it. I recently acquired this gun and found it to have fixed hop and no wheel. other than that it is the "bees knees" (as I've heard said) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i_is_oli Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 hi mate, there are two versions of this. The new version, and the older one. The newer one sports the adjustable hop up, and i will take a photo of the wheel to show you when i get back from college. The only problem i fiond, is a slight rattle from what seems like a ring near the hammer. It doesnt affect the firing however etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morbidus Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 I have 2 friends with "lemon" KJW pistols that is enough to make me not wanna buy a KJW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i_is_oli Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 hmm yeah...i know that you do either get a good one or a bad one. However, i was lucky enough for mine to be fine...just don't want it falling apart on me lol. You should get one mate, theyre pretty good! I know plenty of people with them, and they seem pretty happy. Oli Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janno Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 I also own a KJW full metal 1911 - GREAT value for money, and i feel much more confident with it than my somewhat fragile Western Arms. Sorry i didn't get back to your PM on UKAN Oli - i've been rushing around a lot lately, and have had a long list of urgent correspondants to deal with. Congratulations on your purchase though - and make sure you get a Safariland 6004 for that thing as soon as poss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i_is_oli Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 no worries mate, i do really like it. Only slight niggle i have is in regards to the hammer, there is a bit of wobble back and forth when it is in the normal uncocked poisition, and there seems to be a little ring that rattles. Hmm...maybe lol, do you have an M3 fixed to your? oli Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i_is_oli Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Pics: - Sorry for the unclearness of the next one...tried to take a photo upclose of the wheel, but the phone didnt like it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Gotta say, I've found the same hammer wobble on any WAs I've tried, so... yeah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catchv22 Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 That's from KJW copying the old WA design. The new SCWs don't have them, but KJW hasn't copied them yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 After reading Rizzo's review of the ABS version, I got into a dilemma - plastic Para or the fullmetal one? As I'm kinda on a shoestring budget, needing an AEG and the ABS Para costs half the price of the metal version... I think I could scrape out 235 PLN (around 75 bucks) in addition to 435 PLN (around 140 bucks) for the Cyma MP5J I'm planning to buy, but not 489 PLN (that's 155 bucks!) for a full metal P14... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Classicx Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 can't be that hard, just save up for another month and you'll be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 can't be that hard, just save up for another month and you'll be fine. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Rather "another half a year"... And buying a GBB in winter ain't the smartest thing to do either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i_is_oli Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Right guys, i've found a rather big problem with the FMV Para Ordnances....Was using mine today, and the blowback nozzle just snapped off. The gun still functions perfectly, was just a bit odd! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spantney Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I have the exact same gun and its one of the nicest pistols I've ever owned. I've had about 20 magazines through mine so far and no problems as such. They do loved to be lubed though, just bear that in mind. But as I say, just some regular TLC and it'll be a fantastic pistol. Sounds like you go a dodgy one Oli. If it's still under warranty get a replacement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VertaBreaker Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 KJW P.14 is one of my first GBBs and its great. Mine is all battle worn and it still shoots hard and straight. I like this gun soo much thats why I like KJW guns. My next gbb is going to be a KJW glock 27 metal slide version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kirtap Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 This is my own P14. It's my baby. At first, I was disappointed with the gas efficiency because I went from KSC Glocks to this, so it was strange to me to only get 1 magazine per fill. Summer fixed that though. Hard blowback, and the lovely ka-chink racking sound. I lost the front sight There's at least a solid day of nonstop work total in this gun. Only cost about $175 to do it all though. I polished it myself up to 2000grit sandpaper, put some real Hogues on it, and used real screws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Man, that one is sweet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) trades would make it perfect edit - thought of getting it engraved? I'm sure you wouldn't have any trouble getting the para ords trades engraved on the slide.. shouldnt cost that much either. hbc. Edited July 15, 2006 by hardboiledcop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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