tonytheknife Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 No this is not a picture from Halo 2, nor do I want this to turn into one. I thought this might be an interesting challenge for all of the avid mod-men (and women) out there in the airsoft community. The south african main battle rifle: The Vektor CR21 http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/firearm...sault/cr21.html Link to post Share on other sites
tonytheknife Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 On another more feasible note, the red dot scope is powered by light gathered from the surroundings using fibre optic technology. I owned an action figure when I was much younger in which the eyes lit up through the same principle. Comments are welcome Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Well i think its obvious that the donor gun would be a FAMAS, which i gather was the inspiration for the real steel understanding french foreign legion influence in africa. U coul djust use bondo filler to make the curves i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
tonytheknife Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 That is true, but how would I make it feed the ak-74 looking magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
tonytheknife Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I looked at the picture some more and realized that its an aug with a different casing. basically some cosmetic work would be needed. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmypie Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 It looks like someone left it on the radiator , an Aug looks like the best base rifle for this though. Link to post Share on other sites
The Waco Kid Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I would suggest looking up the treads discussing the difficulty of building an Israeli Tavor rifle. It's very similar SA & Israel have had a deal for years on trading weapons technology, like the Uzi/BXP smg. Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Well i think its obvious that the donor gun would be a FAMAS, which i gather was the inspiration for the real steel understanding french foreign legion influence in africa. U coul djust use bondo filler to make the curves i suppose. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I looked at the picture some more and realized that its an aug with a different casing. basically some cosmetic work would be needed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahem. quote from world.guns.ru Internally, this rifle is a the ol' good AK-47, or, to be more precise - the Galil. The CR-21 has the same "old AK" style machined steel receiver, trigger and bolt group...The receiver is fully enclosed in polymer buttstock, unlike the other latest bull-pup designs, where receivers are integral parts of the stock" So, best start place, would be an AK , with the style of the stock, it wouldnt be *too* hard to sort of... 'pull' it down at the back to cover the motor. Link to post Share on other sites
AirsoftEngineer Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 So, best start place, would be an AK , with the style of the stock, it wouldnt be *too* hard to sort of... 'pull' it down at the back to cover the motor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, but modding an AK to have a bulpup design would be much harder than using an aug or famas. But we can see it uses an AK mag, so modding it for that will be another job. Just my opinion Link to post Share on other sites
Robot 2000 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 There is already a kit to turn an AK into the ugly as hell bullpup version . . . if those crazy HK modders can do it you should be able to. Depends which gearbox fits easier and such really. Link to post Share on other sites
tonytheknife Posted June 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 does anyone know the demension differences between an AUG mag and an AK mag??? Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 you really would be best to start with an AK. All you really need is a system like the FA-MAS, where the 'front' trigger is connected with a bar to the 'rear' trigger. and thats the whole firing system sorted out. As for the mags, they're closest to Galil mags, seeing as thats what they are.... One other thing, the AUG uses the same gearbox as the AK, so its not exactly 'hard' to use a V3 gearbox in a bull pup rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
badguyx4 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 you really would be best to start with an AK. All you really need is a system like the FA-MAS, where the 'front' trigger is connected with a bar to the 'rear' trigger. and thats the whole firing system sorted out. As for the mags, they're closest to Galil mags, seeing as thats what they are.... One other thing, the AUG uses the same gearbox as the AK, so its not exactly 'hard' to use a V3 gearbox in a bull pup rifle. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> theres a kit that I got for a AK-47 BULLPUP that sort of looks like the same thing. You would have to make some parts out of bondo/fiber glass resion to make it look extactly like that gun.I'll put a picture up of it later gun is not with me at my house. Any question on the other guns working or parts I'll help any way.Pictures or what I did to mine to make it work the right way. Feel free to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
tonytheknife Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 making a shell for the outside wouldn't be bad, kinda like making speaker enclosures. But I havn't been able to find the AK bullpup mod. Link to post Share on other sites
squale Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Is This one ,you talk about Tonytheknife http://www.uncompany.com/images/unc-akbulldog_big.jpg You could find more pictures of the CR21's internals parts here http://www.gun-world.net/safrica/vektor/cr21/cr21.htm Link to post Share on other sites
hardboiledcop Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 thats the bullpup conversion for the beta spetz, there is a conversion available for the standard AK as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Very true. Smokies make one. Take an AK, add one of those and you'll end up with this, Then just crack out a can of marine grade resin and some sand paper, change the shape, and then give it a good paintjob. Job done. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 yes, an AK74 (or galil) is the actual base gun, but all of the kits make a poor Vepr (ukranian bullpup ak74) lookalike, instead of that gun which looks like an AUG mated with an AK74 with a hint of XM8 Link to post Share on other sites
rancidrambo Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 At the risk of sounding like the sanctimous a$$hole that I may well be I thought the south african battle rifles were the R5 and the R6 which are effectively Gallils with solid stock and folding stock respectively. I appreciate I may be badly uniformed on this, all I ask is 'give me fair go Dibbla' Link to post Share on other sites
rancidrambo Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Sorry 'lysdexia strikes' It should read uninformed rather than uniformed. What a muppet I am! Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 yes, an AK74 (or galil) is the actual base gun, but all of the kits make a poor Vepr (ukranian bullpup ak74) lookalike, instead of that gun which looks like an AUG mated with an AK74 with a hint of XM8 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hence the suggestion of resin to change the shape of the rifle. This is a projects section, after all! At the risk of sounding like the sanctimous a$$hole that I may well be I thought the south african battle rifles were the R5 and the R6 which are effectively Gallils with solid stock and folding stock respectively. I appreciate I may be badly uniformed on this, all I ask is 'give me fair go Dibbla' <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are. R4 is the rifle, R5 is the carbine, and the R6 is very short indeed. The CR21 is supposed to be the replacement, although, it's been a while so I suspect the CR21 is going to go the way of the XM8. Edit: According to this it may very well be going the way of the XM8. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 off topic but one attraction i can see with UNco's fugly bullpup conversion is as it has no foregrip and your trigger hand (is that the right word? lol) is supporting the front of the gun they would make wonderful dualies....mmmm 600 round hi cap dualies...possibly even the auto winding drum mags Link to post Share on other sites
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