Goddamn leaky WAM8045 mag

[Bob the Angry Potato]

I've tried a lot of things, like taking the valve/O-ring out and soaking it in silicone overnight. However, the bottom of the mag still leaks.

 

Suggestions? Comments, etc?

 

I use propane, as the gun has a flow restrictor installed. It's a WA Cougar Inox.

[Wege]

it is probably the oring between the magazine base and the body then.

[FPBBrandon]

If it doesnt work out, I have an 8045 that got blown apart that I could possibly sort you the mag...

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Hmm- it's OK (at least for now), thanks. I'm hoping it's fixeable.

 

Just a question- how'd it get blown apart?

 

As per Wege, please elaborate.

 

Thanks,

Nate

[snowman]

Where's it leaking from? Is it leaking substantially or slowly?

 

An overnight soak in silicon's not enough to rejuvenate an o-ring - Try Power assisted steering fluid and soak it for a week.

 

Cheers.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Ah, Snowman. Just the guy I was hoping to answer this thread.

 

It's leaking from the fill-valve at the bottom. It's leaking- well, not slow, yet not fast either. After about 30 seconds of leaking, there's barely enough gas to fire 8 shots.

 

Hmmm- power assisted steering fluid? Any recommendations of brands, etc?

 

Cheers,

Nate

[FPBBrandon]

Short answer- A roommate.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Heh. Roommates.

 

Thanks to a suggestion from Harleyb, I'm going to soak it again, then give it a quick shot of gas and leave it for a while.

 

If that doesn't work, I dunno. Steering fluid?

 

Once I get more money I may take you up on that mag deal, I'm getting pretty desperate.

[evilhippy]

Steering fluid Take your pick: http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?hl=en&...yGB&sa=N&tab=wf

 

Using propane/green gas will cack your mags dude, they are only designed for 134 at the end of the day. And complete lack of lube in propane is gonna compound the problem

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Hmm- ah, well. Propane's the only thing I have the money for, and there's been a flow restrictor installed so I may as well take advantage of that.

[Wege]

part number 516 is my thought.

WA_M8045cougarF.pdf

[snowman]

If you're sure it's the fill valve (not the floor/body joint), try tightening the valve (they sometimes work loose), but be careful not to damage it as they're not that easy to source replacements for.

 

Any old PAS Fluid will do fine.

 

If you're only using Propane, wait until your mags are emptied and then push in the top valve and squirt some silicon lube every now and then (No harm in doing it even when you're using gas with silicon lubricant added, either).

 

Cheers.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Ahoy,

Anyways, tried it again. This time, took HarleyB's instructions. It didn't help at all.

 

I took the useless chrome magazine and switched the fill-valves with the leaky one, and it leaked too. I guess they're the same.

 

Either way, I'm under the suspicion that the 1 good mag I have is just... different. It looks different, too, the spring and feed aren't the regular grey ones the other 2 mags have, and the valve's different too.

 

Odd, that. Must be newer.

 

I've tightened the valve, it's as tight as it can go, I'm afraid. I'm soaking it 1 more time, then later I'll try the PAS fluid.

[Raco9]

Try wraping the fill valve with teflon plumers tape a few times. Just make sure you go with the thread so the tape doesn't come off when you put it in

[richieboy]

If the fill valve is leaking through the threads I would use High Temp RTV. Its basically a non hardening silicone sealant(liquid gasket). I use it on engines all the time as well as my WA M9 mags. It works great, you can pick it up at most auto stores here in the US. You can also use the RTV on the mag-body-to-bottom-plate connection if its leaking there.

 

If its leaking through the actual valve itself I cannot help. There is a way to get them apart but I believe you need a special tool.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Nope, comes apart with your fingers. Easy as hell, you unscrew the valve, then Part 518 takes no tools to unscrew and take it into its 3 pieces.

 

Thanks, man- +1. I'll have to check it out.

 

Just my luck, the other mag started leaking. Just 1 week away from the game, too.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Breakthrough.

 

Turns out that the leak isn't coming from the fill valve, it's coming from the sides of the mag- where the bottom attaches. The seal must not be that great- I took the other mag apart, coated the inside with some tape, and put it back on. The leak dissapeared, it had nothing to do with Part 518.

 

Next up, I tried the same thing with the much-harder other mag. The propane just started leaking out at a much slower rate, and you could hear a high pitched whistle. I'm in the process of taking it apart and trying again.

 

Any other recommendations of what to do, other then scotch tape?

[snowman]

If you're sure it's the fill valve (not the floor/body joint)

 

I've never, personally, seen a fill valve leak, it's always the floor/body seal.

 

I've just fixed the same seal on my Tanaka Hi-Power by soaking the seal in PAS fluid (But I think I may have mentioned that approach already )

 

You could try silicon sealant (if you don't want to try PAS fluid). That SHOULD seal it if you make sure you complete the circle.

 

Cheers.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Done. Thanks!

 

It doesn't leak at all anymore, this is awesome. +1

[Aod]

I've never, personally, seen a fill valve leak, it's always the floor/body seal.

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one of the fill valves on my WE-1911 mags leaks if you take the gas can away too quickly.

[Marine47]

so wait, did you use steering fluid and it worked? I heard you can just pour that into the mag, fill it with gas and let it sit, am i wrong? I have the same problem..

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Meh. I just greased the sides, and it worked

 

Thanks, though. There's no more gas leaks, even completely full of propane.

[Catman]

gah don't talk to me about fill-valves, pains in the ###### a**e.

 

check this site out: http://home.comcast.net/~ldrendall/dgz/IAL...alve_leaks.html

Also sticking your mag into a bowl of water to locate where exactly it's leaking from is not a terrible idea... just make sure you dry to throughly afterwards - rusty springs not equal fun - reserve that for when utterly desperate

 

Usually I find the fill valve unscrews itself a little and just needs to be retightened - especially on my WA 1911 mags. I have had some success in taking the fill valve spring out and streching it a millimetre or two however it doesn't always work and I wouldn't really recommend it unless you don't mind/can afford screwing up a fill valve.

 

As mentioned the bottom/body leaking is more common. You want to soak that big square o-like-ring in silicone for a week (as already mentioned) if desperate (like the morning of weekly skirmish ) you can use a bit of plumbers tape under that o-ring to give it a bit more of a seal.

 

Hope that helps

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Thanks

 

Tried it, in the metal area under the O-Ring I smeared some Vaseline (suggestion goes to my bike-shop-worker uncle). The petrolium-based jelly doesn't touch the O-Ring, luckily enough, and the seal's perfect.