MRF Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No, it's not a joke:http://www.yzh.hk/en_ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=7303Judging from pictures quality build is typical for their products, but on the other hand what they didn't omit like Dytac did, are steel inserts. It actually impressed me much .Looks pretty cool. Considering most likely lower price it may be interesting alternative. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Why is the 416 Geissele so popular to clone? Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 man you can feel the quality also the Geissele logo is a bit of a letdown Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm presuming that's a brand new/unused example they've used for the picture, how's it so gouged out? Never seen that before. Why is the 416 Geissele so popular to clone? I think some SEALs or other SF were rumoured/maybe pictured with guns setup in that fashion. Not sure of the exact details but some sort of link to those types of dudes over the past couple of years. Also apparently the bin Laden killer was a 416 with a Remington forend and they look fairly similar-ish. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm presuming that's a brand new/unused example they've used for the picture, how's it so gouged out? Never seen that before. Poor casting probably, I've seen much worse in terms of rail kits though. Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes, BD finish is often rough. But once again please remember it's rather low price tag product. Give it some Krylon touch and unless You are after some Gucci stuff, it will be OK. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Don't get me wrong if it's ACM price then yeah it'd be unreasonable to expect perfection. They just looked (to my eyes) like the unit had been thrown around and hit against other metal objects before being painted. Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted September 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Well, I'm afraid that quite a percentage of production batches looks like this one here and there . That's why I use to inspect this kind of stuff in person in my local airsoft store. I mean Taiwangun.com - masters of ACM rebranding . Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm presuming that's a brand new/unused example they've used for the picture, how's it so gouged out? Never seen that before. Because they're just chucked into a box before being anodised - not handled with kid gloves. Raw ally is soft as [censored] and marks VERY easily. Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I thought he was referring to the very obvious itteration marks in the curved CNC cut. The gouges I think I have a theory. In some WE "behind the scenes" pictures it appears they ship or store the bulk of their raw aluminum casts/CNC slides/frames whatever in big plastic boxes. Without any out protection. They are bound to clank up against eachother causing marks etc. which will show through the finish. Possibly same story here. EDIT: Doh just saw the above Link to post Share on other sites
richie 1 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 A friend of mine who is a machinist had a real one in his hands a few weeks ago, he told me the machining and finish were absolutely terrible. Nothing like a real Noveske, Knights or some of the other big names who do a good job. He sais it was very amature'ish. So this maybe quiet close to the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Looks casted then CNC'd for the look to me, doesn't look like extruded aluminum ( think play doh ) then CNC'd, sand blasting ( huh? ) seems too coarse. Steel-ish inserts are impressive though. Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I thought he was referring to the very obvious itteration marks in the curved CNC cut. Well, those marks are typical for RS Geissele SMR rails finish, so this seems to be legit . I believe Dytac's copies have them too, but little bit more subtle. EDIT: Typical example (RS): http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm157/HKforFREEDOM/HKs/IMG_1910.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted September 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Well, surprisingly it seems it's not that cheap - I've only checked aliexpress this far, but I don't expect lower price tag anywhere else:http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-HK416-G-style-10-5-inch-Handguard-Rail-System-Bk-Free-shipping/2039844352.html Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan le Fou Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 The Geissele "logo", if you can call that a logo, is ugly though. Link to post Share on other sites
carabinero Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 If that's going to be the average price then it is in the same price range as the Dytac's offerings, I was expecting something like $48~54 Dlls... Link to post Share on other sites
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