Arnie Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Please post your comments here about the "Biodegradable BBs tested" article. Thanks folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) Good little article, and should clear up some of the confusion around this area PS - Yes, that was quick Edited March 22, 2005 by HaVoC_MaN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hardy Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 CaCO3 is not Potassium Bicarbonate... The symbol for Potassium is K, not Ca (which is Calcium) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) True Oops, so what now? Is that biodegradable? EDIT: As Hairy excellently pointed out, these are the exact same results as the previous experiment. Infact, all of it is exactly the same, bar they're put D.E.D. in the appropriate places How rare? http://www.vsaf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181 Edited March 22, 2005 by Samm666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Replied on the other thread. I make the assumption when people send stuff in that it is theirs to submit (there's not really enouhg time in the world to cross reference and check everything). As I said before the results were familiar to me so I didnt doubt their article.. but given the similarities I'll just frop those folks a quick line to see if they've made a mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-force Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Good article !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cpaxton Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) CaCO3 is not Potassium Bicarbonate... The symbol for Potassium is K, not Ca (which is Calcium) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> CaC03 is calcium carbonate. Edited June 16, 2005 by cpaxton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) You're a clever boy! Edited June 16, 2005 by Samm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starkey J Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 CaCO3 is not Potassium Bicarbonate... The symbol for Potassium is K, not Ca (which is Calcium) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> CaC03 is calcium carbonate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and it matters because???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) It might not be biodegradable? Mmmnemgf!! Read the goddamn thread and stop trying to be a post ######. Edited June 16, 2005 by Samm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) Edit: Sorry Samm. *weeps in shame Edited June 16, 2005 by elrey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) Wuh the... WHAT?! Did this thread suddenly attract idiots? Simple. Biodegradable BB's. They might have made a mistake in testing, labelling or the product itself might be faulty. Therefore rendering either the product or the review (or both) useless. Some people want bios, and these seemed like good ones. If you don't want bios though, ###### off out of this thread. EDIT: Ohh nice edit yourself... EDIT again: Okay then, you be a good boy now Edited June 16, 2005 by Samm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_BlackHawk_ Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 great article it has cleared alot up for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{MIA}Gmac Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Never did Chemistry so I can't comment on the molecular compostition but :~ Biotech’s are based on Bionelle, it has a certificate for being a compostable plastic resin and is used in agriculture, and other fields of application ( degradable plant pots fleece etc ). Made by Showa High Polymer, Japan who are the World leader in bio-degradable plastic's. Bionelle is broken down by microbiological organisms in the soil where BBBs reverts to carbon dioxide and water ( best translation I can make ) . I am writing to them for more information but I expect exact formular is a trade secret etc. But that is the material from the point of view of the Biotech BBs, its homogeneous material with the colour running right through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappyHunter Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 CaC03 is calcium carbonate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and calcium carbonate is limestone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elsermana Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Hrm, so where can I find these Bio-bbs that are actually biodegradeable? It's really not fair if KSC or EXCEL say they are bio bbs when they are not. Any ideas? I tried googling but came up with zilch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slade xTekno Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 (edited) If Excel Bio BBs indeed contain limestone, what is wrong with them? Wouldn't it help as fertilizer? Edited February 3, 2006 by Slade xTekno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{MIA}Gmac Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) Hrm, so where can I find these Bio-bbs that are actually biodegradeable? It's really not fair if KSC or EXCEL say they are bio bbs when they are not. Any ideas? I tried googling but came up with zilch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is a new Biotech dealer appointed by the Factory, who will be going on line in the USA this month based in CA, his web site is not up yet, but he will have the full range in stock, in quantity. There are other make of Biodegradable bbs by, Marui, Excel, King, and some others, but either they are unstable, and break down unwontedly, or not as biodegradable as Biotechs, and I do not think they are any cheaper. Biotechs do not break down until exposed to natural microbial bacteria found in the soil, so they will not go off in a clean mag, or if left in the window . If Excel Bio BBs indeed contain limestone, what is wrong with them? Wouldn't it help as fertilizer? I think you will find that Excel semi-biodegradable core is made of Barium which I think is inert, but does not bio-degrade as such, but the outside layer is Poly something, with a degrade time of about a million years If the outer casing is not broken, the center will not disperse. Also lime is not a fertilizer It's used to regulate soil acidity ( well it is on our farm ) We are biased, we have used Biotechs for 2 years on site, and now think no bio's the devils work, plus they look bloody awful. VASF tests were very good, but we now have hands on practical experience of the difference, in using semi-excel, and Biotechs, and if you looked at our game site you would see the difference. If somebody sneaks in non Biotechs, you can spot them immediately they fire, or from where they have been firing. Even in the heavy CQB area, the Biotechs are unobtrusive, while they quietly degrade away, we are still picking up old Excel's from 2 yrs ago Plus of course we are the International Factory appointed Agents for Arte Corp Biotechs Edited February 4, 2006 by {MIA}Gmac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Calvert 2 Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 i have used boitechs at ironfoot and can say that they are an exellent brand of bb's. even though they cost more its worth it as the skirmish area is unharmed and the place looks alot nicer. at gz teh floor as littered with white bbs and even though you only skirmish there they are a bit of an eye sore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onizuka-gto Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 wow. now that you mentioned about BB's laying everywhere, you made me guilty. I got this little shooting range in my back yard, that's really just the other side of the house that covered in gravel, but filled with BB's. It'll be nice if they just disappear afet a few months... Well i think i'll start buying biodegradable BB's now, thanks for showing me the error of my ways! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Calvert 2 Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 no probs mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tankbuster Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 and calcium carbonate is limestone <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And chalk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darkholme Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 It'll be nice if they just disappear afet a few months... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, if this is how they are after 6-7 months, so it would take quite more than a few months for them to disappear They are still certainly nice, though, so they are the ones i'll be probably buying once I own an AEG. What's more, they come in dark green so people won't see 'em coming, and won't be able to bullet-time-dodge them PS: Sorry for bad English Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank? Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 biotech nolonger makes bbs. they shut down. gatosports does have some bbs left be he wont sell them yet. there's no more biotech Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Speaking of BIO BB's does anyone know anything on "First Target 100% Bio" ammo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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