Jagdraben Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 No, because soldiers, in the Army, USN, and USMC, were purchasing Dragonskin Armor, which had not passed qualifications, were getting hurt because they were using Dragonskin, so all the branches of the US Military outlawed use of personal armor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Utter b______s. That is all. Carry on. Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_x3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Do you know what kind of Interceptor they're using now? I remember seeing a pic of a new version of the ACU IBA in the ACU Picture Thread. Link to post Share on other sites
O_RLY?.YA_RLY! Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Do you know what kind of Interceptor they're using now? I remember seeing a pic of a new version of the ACU IBA in the ACU Picture Thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All the IBAs in the ACU thread look the same to me. Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_x3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 ORLY? just kidding, but I specifically remember that there was a newer version of the ACU IBA seen in the ACU Picture Thread. Whether or not it's in use with the United States Army is a mystery to me. EDIT: YARLY! It's called the I-OTV, similar to the ACU IBA but obviously with some improvements: https://peosoldier.army.mil/mediaalerts/iotv.asp http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/iotv-i...rovement-03381/ http://fpc.state.gov/fpc/88477.htm Pictures for those of you too lazy to click the links: word. Link to post Share on other sites
O_RLY?.YA_RLY! Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 IOTV? EDIT: ######, 7 minutes late. Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_x3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 nvm. Link to post Share on other sites
MSUGreenGiant63 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Utter b______s. That is all. Carry on. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, it's not. Have you not heard of them banning use of personal armor? Link to post Share on other sites
Wraith18A Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 No, it's not. Have you not heard of them banning use of personal armor? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They banned the use of personal armor because soldiers were getting ripped off and not getting the appropriate armor they needed, not because the Dragonskin armor system is at all bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Wraith18A Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I'm pretty sure that the m4 is not the standard. . .it's the m16a2 for most branches, the Marines use the m16a4 now. Btw the "Since I'm American, I know." Made me laugh Oh! and someone said that we use the m16a3, i think that that is a very rarley used fully auto variant that the navy uses. Edit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle#M16A3 sweet i was right lol <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did you or did you not read my response? Almost all pure regular Army Infantry units in theater are using M4A1s, as are most Infantry NG units. If you're a REMF you might be using an M16A4; as almost all of the M16A2s have been remanufactured to M16A4s. No one in the US Army uses an M16A3, they were never procured because they were automatic, and the USA don't do automatic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And yeah, I might know what I'm talking about.... Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 No, it's not. Have you not heard of them banning use of personal armor? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Of course I have. I'm saying that they're lying to you about their reasoning. Link to post Share on other sites
Light Fighter Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 The whole banning of personal armor came about because some soldiers did not buy the correctly rated hard plates or would purchase the wrong soft armor. Also, a soldier would void his/her life insurence policy if they wore other than issue armor.(its in your contract) As for the dragonskin debate, it is useless in this thread, as Dragonskin failed the NIJ testing. Also, there are some horror stories out there in regards to the dragonskin armor falling apart in the Iraq heat.(the "scales" falling off inside the carrier due to the adhesive used) Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Again, it did not fail the NIJ test, whatever that is. http://www.sftt.org/PDF/ComplianceLetterPi...F01levelIII.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Light Fighter Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 It did fail NIJ testing multiple times until it did in fact pass. Again, pointless as this thread is about US Army gear. Last time I checked, dragonskin is not in use with the US Army. Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_x3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Actually some SF do in Iraq & Afghanistan. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Especially those doing VIP work. Link to post Share on other sites
Little para Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Is it hard to find IBAs and IOTVs? whereq could i just get the vest to prtect my chest, not bothered with the groin pprotects, i have balls of Steel. Link to post Share on other sites
ghost_x3 Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I dunno if your talking about the real thing, but I think OE-Tech makes a ACU IBA. As far as I know, nobody has replicated the IOTV yet for airsoft. Link to post Share on other sites
Wraith18A Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I've got a real-deal ACU IBA on the way (I hope) from PhoneixZero. Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge133 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I have the OE Tech OTV. Very nice vest. Comes with foam soft plates so if you want as real as you can get all you have to buy is the foam "hard" plates to go in the front and back. If you have any other questions just send me a PM or ask here. Currently I am looking for a real OTV size XL so I can begin my journey of making a complete OTV armor set with real kevlar and hard plates. It will be done in two years because I will get handed it if I havn't made it before that. Link to post Share on other sites
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