Johnny Sasaki Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I don't think anybody's noticed this before, but KSC has just started to produce a full metal version of their M9, with military trades and everything. Still has those ugly KSC grip scales, though... but at 190 USD for a full metal M9, I think it's a pretty good deal. http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/...il?prodID=23455 Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 This has been out for a while..... Link to post Share on other sites
Ubar Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 you have been out for a while Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 you have been out for a while lol The slide and frame have a slightly different finish, to replicate the fact that the real one has a steel slide but the frame is aluminum. So you think this was done intentionally, or are they trying to cover up a mistake?! Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Nah the gun is the best feeling beretta yet. Also shoots 340fps at 20*C, shoots about 2 mags minus 3 rounds. Kick isn't great great, but not as bad as the old KSC M9 HWs. Blowback valve and magazine is different from the old "hard kick" system. Its more similar to the KSC Glocks-SIG P226/TM systems. Great gas efficiency. The slide is actually lighter than the KJ metal M9 slides. But the gun makes up for it with a steel lower receiver so the weight is well spread. It feels like a real M9 loaded. Only **** is the fact that it has a KSC hop up and accuracy is something to be desired. Groupings of the one I tested at 6m on KSC 0.2gs is 6cm spread with an MPI to the right by about 2cm. Compared with my KJ M9A1 with the same distance/BBs, on <2cm spread and MPI dead on sights, its a bit easy to see which is more skirmish worthy. Just wished the KJ was more weighty. Link to post Share on other sites
Rix Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 So the trades on that slide (and lower frame?) are the same as on the Real steel? but the only fake about it is that they have those lousy KSC handgrips with ''KSC'' on them? Link to post Share on other sites
Pinkfloyd Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 So the trades on that slide (and lower frame?) are the same as on the Real steel? but the only fake about it is that they have those lousy KSC handgrips with ''KSC'' on them? Buy the gun, slap some RS grips on it. Simple. Almost as simple as Urban Sprinting... Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Same scribbles as the ones on the old KSC M9s so I don't think they are authentic (I have never played with a real M9, only a 92FS INOX). Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Sasaki Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Whoops, sorry if this is old-ish. They just showed up at RWA and Ehobby a few days ago, so I had assumed they were new. Yeah, comparing the markings to the picture on Wikipedia, they are pretty inaccurate... which is a shame, because otherwise it looks like a great quality piece. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Inaccurate and not very well done. WA with expensive kit is still the best out their. Link to post Share on other sites
Hewes Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Like all ksc products, i bet the gun is as solid as anything! Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Inaccurate and not very well done. WA with expensive kit is still the best out their. marking wise.. correct... however in terms of heft/feel/texture/non-rattle comparing this KSC M9 to the WA OD M9A1, then I would take this KSC every day. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Whats incorrect with the trades? Real Steel Beretta M9 Remember the WA is the new M9A1, which is an updated version compared to the model the KSC was based on. So other than the KSC grips, which everybody replaces anyway right?, I see no problems with the KSC metal upgrade to one of the best Beretta replicas out there. Slainte! Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Sasaki Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Well, comparing the text, I don't think it's right. Either way, I've got a soft spot for M9's, so I ordered one from Ehobby. I'll have to review it once it shows up... along with my replacement Beretta grips. And that's a gorgeous M9, Guinness. I'm envious. Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Just a couple little things wrong with the trades... on the KSC it says "Armed Forces" where it should say "Beretta U.S.A." and in the little oval it says "PP" where it should say "PB". For this reason alone I'd stick with the Western Arms, but then again I'm kind of obsessive about my guns having to have perfect trademarks Link to post Share on other sites
Rix Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Just a couple little things wrong with the trades... on the KSC it says "Armed Forces" where it should say "Beretta U.S.A." and in the little oval it says "PP" where it should say "PB". For this reason alone I'd stick with the Western Arms, but then again I'm kind of obsessive about my guns having to have perfect trademarks Then we share the same illness, trademarks should be right! Link to post Share on other sites
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