Sabachthani Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have a few questions, so it'd probably be best to ask them in one thread as opposed to...you know. several. 2. Newbhood Again, as someone with no experience, I know I'm not exactly the first choice when it comes to being in an airsoft team. How would a person with no combat ability worm their way into an organized team? Is there a novice match or something that people can do to learn the ropes? Etc. etc. etc. Edit: Took out question one about the gear. Of course I forget to check the pinned threads =_=. Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Are going to a field that allows walk in and such or are you going to a private field run by a team? Follow some people around and watch them for a while and learn from them. When I first played, i just followed some friends for the first round. I dont know if you live in California, but there is a place called Mike Recondo School or something like that that teaches you these kind of things, but theyre pretty strict. They want woodland bdus, 9(i think) low caps, and a bunch of other things. Link to post Share on other sites
Sabachthani Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Aye, I'm in Sacramento. With college and my job though, I don't think I'd have a whole lot of free time to take another class, even if this school were close by. Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Oh, I live in the Bay area, but my family owns some property in elk grove. Do these Sacramento fields have a website? College takes up a lot of time for me also, so im mostly just collecting. Link to post Share on other sites
Sabachthani Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Ah, yeah. Let me pull it up. http://www.sacairsoft.com/ Well, this is the website for the Sacramento airsoft group. Whether or not the fields themselves have a website for their use...that's beyond me. Love the Suzumiya theme you got going on btw. Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 dont have to join a team, most sites have matches where teams take part as part of one side, not as a whole side... so its best to tag along, and follow them what look like they know which end of thier rifle is forwards R Link to post Share on other sites
Sabachthani Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 *takes notes* Rifle...aim...forward Got it. I was thinking about the whole tagging along concept...and it sounds promising lol. I just hope I don't...I don't know, make the people I'm tagging stick out too badly. I don't know how they can play when people are video recording them like that. Link to post Share on other sites
immutep Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Just a few tips to help impress the regulars. 1) Don't look bug-eyed at them as if you're a 5 year old meeting superman or mickey mouse or whatever. 2) Don't be afraid of getting hit, it stings a little but at the end of the day (assuming all sensible safety precautions are followed of course) you will still be alive and none the worse for the experience. 3) Don't cheat, EVER! 4) Don't hang back miles away from the action and then think the people that you're aiming at 500 yards away aren't taking their hits, there out of range! 5) When moving don't stay too close to the person you're following, if he gets taken out then they have a good chance of getting you too if your two feet away from him. Pro's i.e. military are taught to have spacings of i believe 5-10 meters between each man, in airsoft that may be a little exessive but certainly 2 meters wouldn't be. 6) Disguise your SHAPE* 7) Disguise your SILHOUETTE* 8) If you have comms, then use them in a sensible manner if not then ignore this and move onto step 9 9) Avoid shooting gratuitas amounts of ammo per target. if you can't hit somebody with your first ten then your next fifety have no more chance. (except if somebody asks for covering fire, in this case hose them!) 10) Please wear appropriate clothing for the enviroment you're playing in! if its a woodland shoot then find some camoflauge that suitable to woodland. If its urban it won't matter as much, but bright pink/yellow/orange still won't make the guy you're following want you nearbye. hope this helps! * there is a whole bunch of stuff about this you can get from a standard issue army manual, if you search then i'm sure somebody somewhere will have already posted the entire lot so i didn't, if i'm wrong about this then let me know and i'll post the whole thing up word for word. (i hope somebody else already has! its not big as far as novals go, but its no comic strip either!) Link to post Share on other sites
immutep Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I don't know how they can play when people are video recording them like that. It can be tricky when you've got a good sniper spot then they come over with a camera/camcorder and start to aim it at you! but in most cases they do have a bit more respect for the art of stealth than that, it's only happened to me twice when i was hiding, but then again once was too often! Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I take the IDF aproach to media in the field: shoot first, appologise later. R Link to post Share on other sites
Sabachthani Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Just a few tips to help impress the regulars. 3) Don't cheat, EVER! Lolz, I'm sure that's in a military handbook, right next to the "I got you/no you didn't" principle and the "boys don't cry" theory of manly toughness. Good advice though xD. It can be tricky when you've got a good sniper spot then they come over with a camera/camcorder and start to aim it at you! but in most cases they do have a bit more respect for the art of stealth than that, it's only happened to me twice when i was hiding, but then again once was too often! Respect for the art of stealth? Elaborate a little bit please? I take the IDF aproach to media in the field: shoot first, appologise later. R xD. I'll...keep that in mind when I see cameramen in the heat of battle. Link to post Share on other sites
aeviv Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ive seen some very ###### of airsofters, but at a game i was at recently, these 2 camera guys saw a sniper who was really well hidden, and of course, were like wow look at that guy over there to each other, whilst point the cam at him. An opfor guy saw this, followed thier sight, saw the sniper, shot him. Legitimate kill. The sniper stood up, taking his hit, amzed at how hed been caught. Saw these tow camera guys, flipped, shouted and screamed for a good 5 mins, then promtly shot them. Nice. Safe to say the sniper got a ######ing. The two camera men i recon were jsut respecting the art of stealth, no harm intended. This sniper's example is NOT how to deal with said situations Yea if ur new, take everything u feel might even of possibly been a hit. Most players (in my experience) tend to be a bit prejudice towards newbies. However once they see you just a sporting as them your one of the guys (or gals). A bad reputation is hard to shake. Cyma is a classic example If you are going for your first time, try to get a couple of mates to go along with you. That way you dont feel left out Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
immutep Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Lolz, I'm sure that's in a military handbook, right next to the "I got you/no you didn't" principle and the "boys don't cry" theory of manly toughness. The military handbook was refering to all tips with a '*' next to them, not the whole list of advice. p.s. did you find a reference to it elsewhere? Link to post Share on other sites
Sabachthani Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 The military handbook was refering to all tips with a '*' next to them, not the whole list of advice. p.s. did you find a reference to it elsewhere? Lolz, I figured as much. Just messing with ya (b'__')b Reference to..."it"...you mean the military handbook? Link to post Share on other sites
immutep Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I did mean the military handbook, or just a full blown post giving you the details out of it at any rate. Link to post Share on other sites
Rosco151 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Just stick to a few basic rules: 1) Don't wander aimlessly around, firing into the undergrowth for no good reason other than to play with your blaster. Took us a couple of hours to get a friend of mine to STOP doing that in his first game... (VIP! Dude, stop that. VIP VIP VIP! Newbie, seriously, give it up. VIPVIPVIPVIPVPIVPIVIPVIPVIP! - BANG! Told you stop it. <holster my sidearm>) 2) Watch the other guys on your team. If you want a good game, try to tag along with anyone that shows at least some basic skill in moving as a unit, communicating (but not unneccesarily screaming their heads off), and above all, watch for good sportsmen (people taking their hits properly, and NOT shouting and swearing at people they imagine they've hit). These are the kind of players you want to team up with. 3) Play in the spirit of the game. You can't take a bunker by trying to snipe from 30m away. Charge in, you never know, you might make it, think of the glory that could be yours. 4) The players on the other team are NOT your sworn lifelong enemies, to be hated and reviled. They're other players. I've had a good laugh with the OpFor after a game. If they got you with a bloody good shot, congratulate them. If you shot them in the groin, apologise and joke about it. The players on the other team could be on yours later, so stay civil. Don't worry or stress too much, any good site should welcome new players and try to help you out. Link to post Share on other sites
triggerhappyNL Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 hahaha mate, interesting topic. well tagging along rulez. also, try and be-friend some local players on several forums, who play at your site to. ask them if you can accompany them to the game and play with their team. most expirienced players will really enjoy being asked those questions ( got comething to do with pride and sence of being seen as a veteran, i guess ). i remember, a year ago i had some guy with me, 2 actually, raiding a camp with me and my brother. we did great, the 2 guys had their first skirm and already where working on some special thing. those guys had a hell of a good laugh and we taught them allot of things in those 4 hours of that mission. i lost sight of them in the time to come... till 4 months ago. i suddely got a PM on a national forum, saying they knew me. i turned out, these guys started their own team, central netherlands-based, have 13 hardcore members, specialise in covert ops and POW-taking and breaking, and are frequent players to the field we showed them arround. now i ain't no veteran, i've been arround airsoft for 1,5 years now. but the pride and joy it gave me to see these guys in such a short time turing into such a awesome team, that you have to feel to know. 4 months later ( which is, now, actually ) i can still feel good about what we did back then. i loved that, and i always will. trust me mate, get someone who's been arround longer to let you tag allong with him. they'll love it, you'll get the best intro to airsoft possible, and you'll make great friends and a new and decent reputation for yourself as well. Cheers, Erik Link to post Share on other sites
Krispy101 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yeah, basically what's been said above, befriend experienced players and just know the spider-web of people Link to post Share on other sites
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