greg Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 if its pale, numb I would go to the doctor. it may require some specialist treatment. Amputation or a dab of calomine lotion, I'm sure. My GP (bless) is more than likely going to perscribe anti biotics! Can't beet the bum deal of the NHS post code lotery. Took 3 years to see a specialist last time I needed one,,,,,,,,,,,,,just in time for him to retire! Oh how I laughed. I'd rather wait 'till it drops off,,,,,,, less hassle. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
imp1864 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Amputation or a dab of calomine lotion, I'm sure. My GP (bless) is more than likely going to perscribe anti biotics! Can't beet the bum deal of the NHS post code lotery. Took 3 years to see a specialist last time I needed one,,,,,,,,,,,,,just in time for him to retire! Oh how I laughed. I'd rather wait 'till it drops off,,,,,,, less hassle. Greg. yes fair comment mate. any one know any physo's, work or footie teams out there. they would know more about it. Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Amputation or a dab of calomine lotion, I'm sure. My GP (bless) is more than likely going to perscribe anti biotics! Can't beet the bum deal of the NHS post code lotery. Took 3 years to see a specialist last time I needed one,,,,,,,,,,,,,just in time for him to retire! Oh how I laughed. I'd rather wait 'till it drops off,,,,,,, less hassle. Greg. send your doctor a picture of it, exteneded while rest of your fingers are folded so he/she can focus in on the problem digit Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 send your doctor a picture of it, exteneded while rest of your fingers are folded so he/she can focus in on the problem digit You really can't see a lot, the skin is pale & dry in the area corresponding to where it touches the underside of the trigger guard (like dead skin on a corn or bunion, but without the swelling). It looks like exma & as if it should be sore, but it ain't,,,,,,,,, for fear of repeating, it's just, numb. This varies, or maybe, me noticing it does. . Haven't skirmd since Boxing day, & it's still the same. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I wrapped one of my M16's trigger guards with a short section of double sided velco (like the velco cable ties) to give it some cushion. After a while I found a set of gloves that was fine. My issue was more chaffing then a finger going numb or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Xsjado Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 CTS is a strange one, I also use computers A LOT, playing games, browsing the internet, plus ICT in school, I also play guitar and obviously airsoft, yet never had it. Then again it's easy to avoid if you know the symptoms, the moment I feel 'the heat' starting in either of my hands during guitar I stop for a few minutes. It's easily avoidable with proper warmups, also. Recently I had a case of early onset RSI even though my usage patterns haden't really changed much (on computer). Turns out it was because of EVE online, the interface was almost entirely controlled by the mouse so there was a lot less balance than I was used to and that caused quite a lot of pain. Then I stopped my subscription and the problem went away, which is when I made the connection. It seems that even small changes in the way you use your hands can be quite damaging and its probably different depending on the shape of your hands. So, I wouldn't rule out airsoft but its still more likely to be a trapped nerve than anything else, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
tom lawson Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 could it be some form of callous (spelling?).. Ie the hard patch of skin that you get from repeated use of the skin, i have several from rock climbing.. They are hard to the touch, and dont have feeling really.. I dont know though, its just an idea.. Poke it with a pin (sterilised if you like) and see if it hurts? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I don't think an AEG provides enough vibration - VWF or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is typically gotten from using power tools all day. not at all. CTS is caused by anything pushing into the palm of your hand for long periods of time. screwdrivers are more guilty of causing it than most power tools. its not caused by vibrations or anything, its caused by objects compressing the protective sheath around a main nerve. if it happens enough the sheath thingy wont expand to its normal shape again, leaving the nerve under pressure. someone in the second year of my course ended up with CTS so bad that he had lost feeling down to the second joint in his fingers. he had to have surgery to have it corrected. maybe you should re-evaulate the way you hold your gun? Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 could it be some form of callous (spelling?).. Ie the hard patch of skin that you get from repeated use of the skin, i have several from rock climbing.. They are hard to the touch, and dont have feeling really.. I dont know though, its just an idea.. Poke it with a pin (sterilised if you like) and see if it hurts? I think you may be on to something there. Now you mention it, that's exactly what it's like. & probably is. Panic over. Well done, gold star, top of the class, & many thanx. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 you can always try NOT having that finger sat on the body like that... wrap it around the grip like the other fingers.... you'll find that having it extended for a long period, under stress (trust me, it is) will cause that. and Doctors can be useful... and i would not hesitate if i thought i might loose a finger... better safe than sorry... R Link to post Share on other sites
Melonfish Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 have you considered getting tested for "licky end"? seriously see your GP about poor circulation thats probebly all it is. pete Link to post Share on other sites
Hewes Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 As a fail safe, you could always try and sue God like Sean Connery! You could try wearing gloves, this might combat the effects of your numbness Link to post Share on other sites
mr eagle Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 As a fail safe, you could always try and sue God like Sean Connery! You could try wearing gloves, this might combat the effects of your numbness I take it you mean Billy Connaly?? Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I take it you mean Billy Connaly?? or even Billy Connolly.. Link to post Share on other sites
Melonfish Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 cyril connely? NO, Semi-carnally...... "cyril connely" *whistles~ Link to post Share on other sites
Docv400 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 send your doctor a picture of it, exteneded while rest of your fingers are folded so he/she can focus in on the problem digit I think snorkelman was meaning like this Greg; cyril connely? NO, Semi-carnally...... "cyril connely" *whistles~ Ah, a fellow Python fan *singing* "Eric the half a bee" Link to post Share on other sites
RedScare Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 oh rofl Link to post Share on other sites
Dope on a Rope Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Ok here we go, what you're describing could be something or nothing at all, BUT get it checked out if from what you say it is persistant. The symptoms you describe do match some of those of vibration white finger. VWF used to be thought of as being associated with 'heavy' machinery, however, in the more modern research it's not just the amount of vibration but also the frequency of vibration that makes a difference. Here are a few links: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg296.pdf http://www.hse.gov.uk/vibration/hav/statistics.htm Quick tips are keep your hands warm, when you find that you start getting symptoms, give yourself a break, drop back flex your hands and get the blood flowing. Check out your grips, modding them so they are a better fit can help. PS I'm not a doc but am a H&S consultant, I do a fair bit of work with VWF prevention (amongst other things). Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Personally, I'd suggest getting a rifle that's more comfortable to hold. Like an AUG. Steyr - good for what ails you. Link to post Share on other sites
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