TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hello AA, I have been inspired by an old prop piece of mine- a toy HK-like rifle. It's matte black and has tons of silver scratches on it. I decided to create my own, usable version of this old prop. Base rifle: I'm thinking G36C. I'm not sure if I'd want this to be skirmishable or not yet. Process is as follows. -Spray paint matte black. -Scratch using silver spray paint and sock (don't ask, it just works) -Add accessories (flashlight, red dot scope) -Add OD tape on certain spots, ideally buttstock, foregrip and handgrip. The concept is this: It started life as one of millions of mass produced rifles. From the arms plants, this weapon was heavy and made of metals and plastics. It was then issued and re-issued so many times, it lacks a truly good external finish. Soldiers have modified it for their needs, this is evident by the many colors on the rifle. Apparently through the process is issue, the weapon is quickly repainted. Soldiers have also taped it together to make it work. Most soldiers assigned with this weapon for city patrol equip it with a flashlight and a red dot scope. Presumably, soldiers issued it in woodland do the same, except add a bipod. I'm really just looking for input and help with making it look futuristic. Link to post Share on other sites
lord_marmite Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Maybe try and make it look like a gun from battlefield 2142 or something along those lines, I havent persoanlly played the game but from what i saw of the guns it could turn out nice, and wouldn't be to hard to do with a G36C. i wouldnt go for RIS rails and such, maybe only for the optical sight. see if you can make a specialised clip for a flashlight. If you really wanted to go to town with the flashlight, try and make a sort of socket with the batteries already in the weapon, but with a removable bulb module that can be changed at will or left out altogether, you could even make different filters on bulbs. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 That's interesting...maybe wires strewn on it and LED lights and stuff... Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hey your project isn't a million miles from my own, although I'm looking to build from scratch and definately want mine to be a skirmish tool. I'm looking at creating one of these: Although some of the guns from HALO would also be sweet! As far as all the flashing leds and stuff, in my personal opinion, I would steer clear of that, or it could end up looking like something from a 1970s Buck Rogers episode! If you take a look at the way "real world" guns are developing, XM8, SCAR, and try to imagine a natural progression from there, that might work better. Do you have any pictures of what you're planning? Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I haven't any true plans, but I will be messing with a side-view G36C later today. I myself am a Halo costumer/prop maker but actually making the gun itself is very difficult. Not exactly flashings LEDs, but more like the odd LED out of a broken out piece of the weapon's shell. Hmm, the XM8 is a total possibility. They certainly look futuristic, heck, with a nice paintjob and OK optics it might be decently skirmishable also! Looks like its time to search around and keep thinking! I might get some sketches up here soon. Link to post Share on other sites
lord_marmite Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 a cool idea might be a kind of 'crack' running from magwell to muzzle, and when a magazine is inserted it lights up in a pale blue glow untill the mag is removed. good luck with this project, It could turn out very nice indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I like the crack idea. In fact the whole idea of making a gun that has seen better days is very VERY original. Kinda sad in a way..... Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 I need to find my base gun...I'm so very inspired right now... Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 THis gun looks like it could be based on a mixture of FN P90, HK G36, and FAMAS. See if you can see the same features I can, perhaps the above uns would make a good basis for a future battle rifle. Incidentally, the rifle below is from HALO. If you're interested I have more pictures I can post of other rifles in the range. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 ahh, the devil with it....check these babies out Link to post Share on other sites
liquidflorian Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Have you guys seen this? Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Inq... Did you not see that I mentioned I am a Halo costumer/prop maker? I don't want a Halo gun. The Lancer is nice also. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Oops! So you did, sorry!....I can imagine that makes your job on this project harder, rather than easier, as those guns look like some of the most "realistic" proposals for a future rifle I've seen in a long time. Even the stuff knocked out by Games Workshop looks clumsy alongside it..... Actually, that reminds me. There is a game called Infinity, made by Corvus Belli, its a Sci Fi skirmish game based in the "not too distant future"....they have some really nice tech. If you can't find it, let me know and I'll post some less offensive pictures heres a taster: Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'm not planning on totally rebuilding to the outside, but that looks interesting...time to play Mass Effect for some inspiration. Link to post Share on other sites
boxmag Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hmm I'd quite like to see a Mass effect gun. Dont know how it'd work though. http://masseffect.bioware.com/gallery/ that might help Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Hyde Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I dont have pictures but the guns from Aliens, terminator, and half-life look like good projects to me. Link to post Share on other sites
monkey530 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ing's first gun the terran gun or w/e looks interesting. Except if I were to make that I would make it an ejecting m203 type gun and have a mag, IDK how it would work but it would intimidate like a mofo. HK guns are probably the best bet for futuristic look. Also what does your toy-like HK gun look like Merchant? Link to post Share on other sites
Auroris Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I just bought an SL9 and I think that that is one of the most futuristic real guns out atm! Anything based off that would be great! Link to post Share on other sites
AGuy Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 ahh, the devil with it....check these babies out They already have this weapon inairsoft form by sebura (?) check out endoshoji.com or wgcshop Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 No, they don't. I'm not sure what the toy HK-like rifle is supposed to be, I think a G3? Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Energy Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Even though you seem defiant to this idea I would probably reccomend doing a battle rifle... Famas base, edit the grip a little (g27 grip) and an XM8 fore end. Then just do the scratched up technique. Link to post Share on other sites
Raven12 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 just been playing bf2142 and i want to build a gun from this lol the ones that i am interested in are: Lambert Carbine (already own a g36c so i guess half way there) http://www.battlefield-game.com/images/bf2...ons/carbine.gif Voss L-AR (I really wouldnt mind doing this as it would be small unique and light) http://www.battlefield-game.com/images/bf2...eapons/voss.gif and finally, Krylov FA-37 AR http://www.battlefield-game.com/images/bf2...pons/krylov.gif so a few questions: how would you get a mag to feed from an angle? would a modified hopup unit do the job? (lambert carbine) would a sight attached to the side of the gun make any difference to the accuracy once zeroed in? what would be the best way of creating each of them? sorry for hijacking the thread but ive been looking for a sci-fi rifle to do for awhile Link to post Share on other sites
AGuy Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Sorry this is what I was thinking earlier, looked like a close fit in my head... Link to post Share on other sites
liquidflorian Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Sorry this is what I was thinking earlier, looked like a close fit in my head... Monsters in Motion has some and it looks like they're not selling to quickly from the "available now" tag. I want to pick one up, myself. Link to post Share on other sites
zentaurus Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 hollow resin cast models . . . not quite suitable for working airsoft guns? fareast, sometime in the past, posted a mostly aluminum prototype of the Seburo MN23. i'd like to see one done, too -- has been on my to do list (the MN23 SXC, that is) for a very long time maybe a cross of the AUG (or f2K), P90, and any of the v6-type meks instead of a G36 base platform? zT Link to post Share on other sites
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