snipernoob Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Basically my mate and I have been airsoft a short while now and we both agree never to buy and M4/M16 variant (well apart from my M16A1 cos its so damn sexy ) but what I'm really saying is we don't like to follow the crowd. SO the story goes that I have a broken Warrior L96 with an awesome custom paintjob and perfect cosmetic condition and he has a slightly battered JG Steyr AUG and we were thinking could we take the internals from my friends AUG (which are still in good condition and cut/fix the gearboc into my L96's housing. Obviously we would have to go about chopping up the magwell and everything but we intend to use my L96's longer inner barrel and the AUG's gearbox and mag. We are both pretty compentent at DIY/fabrication things and we both have access to a well-equipped workshop which includes a laser cutter. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Sounds an interesting project, seems a bit wrong to make a bolt action into a semi (full) sniper rifle but meh who cares? Don't be shy in posting up pics The AUG gearbox is good for about 510mm of barrel you can probably get a little bit extra length given it's cylinder but much more and you're going to start loosing FPS. Though you could stick in a slightly stiffer spring or put spacers on the spring guide to compensate. if you're going to make this into a powerful sniper rifle check with your skirmish site as to what is acceptable - some sites won't allow AEG sniper rifles Link to post Share on other sites
snipernoob Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Sounds an interesting project, seems a bit wrong to make a bolt action into a semi (full) sniper rifle but meh who cares? Don't be shy in posting up pics The AUG gearbox is good for about 510mm of barrel you can probably get a little bit extra length given it's cylinder but much more and you're going to start loosing FPS. Though you could stick in a slightly stiffer spring or put spacers on the spring guide to compensate. if you're going to make this into a powerful sniper rifle check with your skirmish site as to what is acceptable - some sites won't allow AEG sniper rifles Yeh but if the AUG is running within site limits with a longer barrel it would be slightly lower on the fps if anything no? Not sure what I'm going to do with the bolt - might just glue it shut I'll try and get some pics of my L96 up later so you can see the paintjob but we haven't started on the project yet so no stripped and ripped pics yet! Would my inner barrel still screw into a gearbox even though it was originally in a boltie Link to post Share on other sites
The_AUGfather Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Yeh but if the AUG is running within site limits with a longer barrel it would be slightly lower on the fps if anything no? Not sure what I'm going to do with the bolt - might just glue it shut I'll try and get some pics of my L96 up later so you can see the paintjob but we haven't started on the project yet so no stripped and ripped pics yet! Would my inner barrel still screw into a gearbox even though it was originally in a boltie I love both AUGs and L96s. But I am still unsure what you are trying to do.... Wheres the gearbox gonna go? I only see two options: Also, looks like thats easily a 650+mm barrel. You will need a bore-up kit (expensive) and stronger spring. Non-ported cylinders (your JG is a ported cylinder, for 350-450mm barrels, JG should have used a non-ported 450-520mm cylinder) get bad compression, especially in this application. So get a spring and new BUK and you'll be set. Piston/P-head and C-head wouldnt hurt. Go ahead and grab a torque motor, AB MOSFET, and lastly torque gears for better trigger response and better shooting at long range (better trigger response = shooting when you intend to, and not a moment later, invaluable). I hope my advice helped! Good luck with this project, its very interesting and I'll subscribe to it to keep an eye on developments! Link to post Share on other sites
snipernoob Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Wheres the gearbox gonna go? I only see two options: Also, looks like thats easily a 650+mm barrel. You will need a bore-up kit (expensive) and stronger spring. Non-ported cylinders (your JG is a ported cylinder, for 350-450mm barrels, JG should have used a non-ported 450-520mm cylinder) get bad compression, especially in this application. So get a spring and new BUK and you'll be set. Piston/P-head and C-head wouldnt hurt. Go ahead and grab a torque motor, AB MOSFET, and lastly torque gears for better trigger response and better shooting at long range (better trigger response = shooting when you intend to, and not a moment later, invaluable). I hope my advice helped! Good luck with this project, its very interesting and I'll subscribe to it to keep an eye on developments! Hmm a good point you've highlighted there - I think my major worry is going to be where the mag is going to go in realtion to the gearbox. I'm going to do a full strip down tonight of my L96 and remove the internals but is there anyway we could use a feed tube from the mag so that it could go, in theory, anywhere we wanted it to? Link to post Share on other sites
Swerve Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Standard inner barrel length in Well L96 is 496mm so it is shorter than the AUG inner barrel of 509mm Also, the stock L96 inner of this type of L96 is not going to fit with an AUG hop unit. So, that leaves you with the 509mm from the AUG, if it is sticking out the end then consider adding a flash hider/silencer adapter. Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hmm a good point you've highlighted there - I think my major worry is going to be where the mag is going to go in realtion to the gearbox. I'm going to do a full strip down tonight of my L96 and remove the internals but is there anyway we could use a feed tube from the mag so that it could go, in theory, anywhere we wanted it to? Nope... beyond a certain lenght, and without using huge hicaps, youd have bbs in the tube, not none feeding. it has to for economy;s sake, go bellow the hop Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I use spring feed tube in my Barrett. No problem there once you fill the tube with BBs. I use 100mm pieces that means 17BB has to enter the tube before the mag start to feed BB into the hopup. That means I can fire around 60BBs from each 85BB mag. If you use a 500mm piece you will have to insert the mag, have the BBs fill tube, then insert a fresh mag and there, all 85BBs will be fed without problem. Just make sure you change the mag while the gun is upside down or the BBs are otherwise blocked so they don't fall out. The biggest concern is the perfect alignment of the hopup unit and the nozzle on the gearbox. 1 degree tilt or 1mm off center and you will end up with 200 FPS and crappy feeding. Link to post Share on other sites
The_AUGfather Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hmm a good point you've highlighted there - I think my major worry is going to be where the mag is going to go in realtion to the gearbox. I'm going to do a full strip down tonight of my L96 and remove the internals but is there anyway we could use a feed tube from the mag so that it could go, in theory, anywhere we wanted it to? Feed tube from the mag? You mean the internals of the magazine? Sure, but it would involve lots of modification to make it work right. In theory yes, in practice, all modifications get much more complicated. Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi guys, i'm the other builder of this beastie... and finally got my camera plugged in and here are the pics so far... Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Also links to the pics with tags... so you can see what is happening... EDIT: Sorry, added the wrong link... here are the photo's Link to post Share on other sites
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Unit 318 Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 It's crooked D: Link to post Share on other sites
The_AUGfather Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hah wow you just jumped right into that project huh? If you follow the stock out, you can do put your battery/MOSFET/capacitors there. Link to post Share on other sites
Beilmann Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 looks like that's going to be pretty nice once it is done. Good Luck! Link to post Share on other sites
silent_soul Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 nice, im sure youll love it when you get on the field and lay down semi auto fire, giving everyone down range quite the surprise. Link to post Share on other sites
counterassasin Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Nice project there, but the way I see it, you should have just used an ak gearbox, that way the trigger would be spot on aswell How do you plan to hide the top part of the gearbox by the way? Almost made me want to make one myself Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Thank you all, yeah i have now made the gearbox straight in line with the barrel... and we are planning to bend a bit of plastic to fit over the gearbox, and then stick the RAS rail from the L96 on to it... should work quite well Link to post Share on other sites
snipernoob Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 nice, im sure youll love it when you get on the field and lay down semi auto fire, giving everyone down range quite the surprise. SEMI AUTO???!!!! I'm going the whole hog and showing them what a full auto L96 can do!!! but projects going well so far just need the precision work doing Link to post Share on other sites
sgt.kicker Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 looks sexy Link to post Share on other sites
Involved6 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Nothing says "One shot, one kill" and "precision" like a fully automatic with a crooked gearbox held on with duct tape I'm not trying to be mean, and I may be missing the point here, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a sniper? Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Haha, LOL, Ok Ok... It does defeat the point of a sniper, but it is fun... Anyway, we had basically 2 broken guns so now we have one non broken one, the gearbox has been straightened out since the picture, and the tape is just the to cover up the gearbox for the photo, we are actually gonna mount the L96 rail on top of some PVC plastic moulded cover for the gearbox... i'll show you when its done... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 EDIT: Double post, Sorry bout that Link to post Share on other sites
The_AUGfather Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Haha, LOL, Ok Ok... It does defeat the point of a sniper, but it is fun... Anyway, we had basically 2 broken guns so now we have one non broken one, the gearbox has been straightened out since the picture, and the tape is just the to cover up the gearbox for the photo, we are actually gonna mount the L96 rail on top of some PVC plastic moulded cover for the gearbox... i'll show you when its done... LOL Its definitely an interesting idea. Its a shame the gearbox wouldnt fit in the stock. It may have been possible, but your cheekrest dies in the process. You could have run an integrated silencer instead of an airbrake if that was the case. (also more compact) Whats the new barrel length? Or is it the same? Link to post Share on other sites
BSXBlizzard Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Using the slightly longer AUG inner barrel, and as for the air brake, it doesn't really add anything to the gun other than looks so i think a silencer is the way forward... but we'll see... gotta get it working flawlessly first... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
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