Maekl Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hey, Im sure that there are not much people who know precisely how version 5 gearbox works, so I decided to take some photos to show you. As far as I know (have googled) im the first who posts detailed pictures of it in internet. Only one I have seen is just blurry image taken from the outside of the gearbox. These are from my friends uzi which got locked up and burned fuses. Reason for that found out to be stripped spur and sectorgear. Here's what it looks like when you open the gearbox The motor is EG1000R and it has more teeth than usual The gears at closer look I dont know whats this one called but you know what it does... The gears There is actually no cylinderhead, its part of the hopup unit. And the barrel goes all the way through. Spring guide is small : D The air goes through those two holes and from there in the nozzle. Cut-off lever and nozzle. There is no tappet plate at all. Piston and pistonhead are fixed together. There is a o-ring inside the hole where the barrel goes through. The weak link of the gearbox http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj98/Maekiii/DSC00853.jpg That little nub releases the piston. http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj98/Maekiii/DSC00857.jpg http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj98/Maekiii/DSC00861.jpg For more pics go to http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj98/Maekiii/?start=20 The gearbox is made from polycarbonate, and because of the design it could hold m100 springs. But gears and some of the other components will not, so at this time there is no way upgrading this gun. I hope that some ACM brand such as JG would make their own version of this gun with metal gearbox and steel gears. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Great of you to do that. There was one other person who did the same about 5~6 years ago in a Spanish airsoft site but the pictures became unavailable a year or so after, presumably from being erased from his host site. That and the guide was in Spanish Link to post Share on other sites
Docv400 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Thanks for that. Not something that was troubling me personally but it's nice to see. That's quite ingenious isn't it! Sort of a 'bullpup' mechanism . Link to post Share on other sites
Maekl Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 np : ) Here's a vid, I forgot to mention it. Link to post Share on other sites
MDK_Marshal Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Awesome! That's Really quite neat! Link to post Share on other sites
Docv400 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 What's the reason for the latch on the piston? Surely the sector gear just releases the metal rack (and therefore the piston with it) as it would the piston in a 'normal' AEG box? Is it something to do with the 'recoil' idea? Link to post Share on other sites
chaoswithinthed Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 That's really cool! Nice pics! DP Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks for posting this. I recently bought a TM Uzi as a backup. This will be nice to have in case I ever have problems. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 What's the reason for the latch on the piston? Probably just to reduce stress on the piston teeth on shooting which is made separate from the piston itself. If the piston were directly pinned with the teeth, the teeth would slam rearwards with the same amount of force exerted by the spring and would likely break something. The latch is disengaged at the rearmost stroke of the piston making the piston and the teeth return separately on their own. As for the recoil, its simply that the piston is oriented to hit rearwards so your shoulder would feel it more so than one that slams forwards. Link to post Share on other sites
nachostheclown Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Question for thread starter or anyone else who might be able to help me out. Just purchased a brand new Uzi and have run into trouble right off the bat. The gun is firing but for what ever reason no bbs are coming out. My first thought was "*suitcase* the tappet plate is screwed" then I remembered your thread and that you had mentioned that it had no tappet plate. I would really prefer not to send it back being that it took forever to get in the first place. Any ideas where to start? Link to post Share on other sites
Diezel Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I had the exact same problem when I got my UZI nacho. I know what happened to yours. There is a little plastic piece that holds the spring from releasing the nozzle to shoot the bb. If the plastic part is broken, the spring is no longer retracted. This is actually a very simple fix if you can open up the external body of the gun. The solution is to get a tiny screw and drill it in where the platic part broke off (note: the plastic piece is essentially a hook for the spring end). Then put the spring over top the head of the screw and it should be fixed. I will post a pic here so you know where it is...I actually had a local airsmith do this for me because he said it is quite a common problem in TM UZI's. Let me know if you get it worked out. This is where you will find the spring after removing the lower reciever. Also one more thing. Did you buy your UZI from Airsoft Atlanta? That is where I got mine and if so you will not be able to remove the barrel cap which secures the barrel at the end of the gun. These were all super glued on. When mine was taken apart, we had to take a dremel and cut the cap off in order to remove the UZI body and reach the gearbox. Luckily my airsmith had UZI parts available and replaced the cap. Link to post Share on other sites
nachostheclown Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yep that's exactly the problem. Unfortunately I pulled the gear box apart before I noticed it and am having damn hard time getting the gearbox haves back together. I'm getting hung up somewhere at the front of the box. Got it from AEX and they did not glue barrel nut. That would have really sucked. Edit: Fixed the problem got the whole gun together and now I have no semi and it's shooting about 100FPS. Well at least it's shooting now.lol Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Strange, I had that exact same problem right out of the box when I got mine. The fix was simple but its disturbing how the guys at Marui were depending on that small piece of plastic from not breaking. Link to post Share on other sites
NegativeCambre Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Thanks for all the info. I'd really like to see Marui or one of the other manufacturers re-make the full sized uzi without all the old-school problems. The loopy gearbox is the only thing that is keeping me from having one in my collection. Link to post Share on other sites
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