Adding realism to an AK?

[TMC]

Rust.

[longjohn]

I'm still waiting to get my ak47 so i don't really know how much of it is metal already... is the top metal?

 

Would a real flash hider work?

[PlasticMag]

Yes, and yes as long as the threading is 14mmx1-

[longjohn]

is the stock flash hider already metal?

[Magsz]

The stock flash hider is already metal.

[longjohn]

bah then i probably won't bother with it then.

 

So the top is already metal, getting metal reciever, and real wood kit.

 

Ok is there any other plastic parts that i can change with metal parts?

 

will this wood kit fit without too much modification?

 

http://www.k-var.com/product.asp?0=270&1=271&3=53

 

dunno if it will since its an akm kit.

[Gene]

How about making you more realistic, Maybe a shemaugh and an arab dish-dash, maybe a pair of Jesus sandals?

[longjohn]

How about making you more realistic, Maybe a shemaugh and an arab dish-dash, maybe a pair of Jesus sandals? 

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already got that covered

[knutti]

bah then i probably won't bother with it then.

 

So the top is already metal, getting metal reciever,  and real wood kit.

 

Ok is there any other plastic parts that i can change with metal parts?

 

will this wood kit fit without too much modification?

 

http://www.k-var.com/product.asp?0=270&1=271&3=53

 

dunno if it will since its an akm kit.

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The grips would maybe only need some sandpaper, and the stock would need a little more job with cutting inside and outside to make it fit to the body. The pistol-grip I think you can forget, cause it would be a hell of a job to make that fit with the motor. For 80bucks.. I would go for it. (With that kit, i've would go for the AKM look with AKM flashhider,ribbed upper reciever and Guarder AKM magazine kit)

 

go for that look http://russianarms.info/rushtm/photos/Gall...elbi1%20159.jpg

[longjohn]

anywho i like the akm look but i'm not a fan of the mags though

 

but eh who the hell is gonna know the difference

[knutti]

anywho i like the akm look but i'm not a fan of the mags though

 

but eh who the hell is gonna know the difference 

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Well, you don't need to buy some AKM conversion-kit for the magazines.. it would look great with normal standard one too.

[Onechance]

A good site for Ak stuff below

Ak stuff

worth a look

[knutti]

Also try http://www.rusmilitary.com/ if you looking for accessories, Furniture or optics.

[jifdog]

here is a great how to article on how to make the plastic wood on you AK look real http://www.wargear.org/articles/ak_wood/RA...K_wood_page.htm

[futbolpunk]

Woah, that guide is absolutely amazing! I love how he even roughed it up to make it look used. Great link!

[W.K.Shuridys]

If it's the Guarder AKMS Carbine conversion kit you're refering to, then the proper nomenclature would be AKMSU, not AKSU.

 

The AKMSU has the thumb-grip handguard and AKMS folding stock, not the AKS-74 side-folding stock, and also the AKMSU is chambered in 7.62 mm, just like the AK-47/AKM/AKMS, while the AKSU (AKS-74U) is chambered in 5.45 mm, like the AK-74.

The AKS-74U is the weapon known as the AKSU.

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I think you're a bit confused.

 

The AK alphanumeric designations do not refer to any individual model with regards to specific styles of furniture and folding stocks. The letters and numbers only designate specific features regarding length and series.

 

The original AK47 used a milled steel receiver identifiable by large, shallow rectangular cutouts above the mag well:

 

 

The AKM introduced in 1959 utilized a stamped, bent-up sheet metal receiver to save manufacturing costs and time, as well as weight. It is identifiable by small, deep dimples over the magazine well:

 

 

The AK74 is exactly the same as the AKM aside from different furniture and a different chambering in 5.45x39.5 M74. The receiver and trunnion remain the same:

 

 

Therefore, aside from the Hundred-series, we have three generations of Kalashnikovs that are designated either AK for the original model, AKM for any model using a stamped receiver, and AK74 for any model chambered for 5.45mm.

 

The designation S refers to any model with a folding stock, regardless if it's an underfolder or a side folder. The designation U (ukorochenny) refers to any short-barrelled AK regardless of other features.

 

Since every airsoft receiver except the Guarder unit is modelled after the original milled AK47 style, the proper designation for the Guarder AKMS kit is AKSU as it is a milled receiver, short barrelled, folding stock weapon. The AKMSU would be the same but strictly using the stamped receiver, which only Guarder makes. Any airsoft gun cannot call itself an AKM-anything unless it has a stamped-style receiver.

 

Furthermore, what you call the AKSU is the AKS-74U (or AKSU-74). Without the 74 designation it is only an AK model, which refers to the milled receiver chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. There is no importance placed upon the style of handguard, thumbhole or otherwise, or folding stock. It is perfectly acceptable to have an AKMSU with a smooth handguard and side-folding stock.

 

One thing being a small arms technical advisor to the film and videogame industry has taught me, is study study study. Any book by Ed Ezell is worth its weight in gold, as are any volumes of Jane's Infantry Weapons and Jane's Ammunition Handbook. http://world.guns.ru/ is also an excellent resource. Hope this helps.

[PlasticMag]

Nicely said.

[longjohn]

WoW! that guide was pretty cool.

 

I'd try it but the feel of plastic is still a turn off.

[longjohn]

Man this is a lot of work

 

Hmmm maybe i'm better off buying a real ak... can get a cheap romanian wasr10 for like 300 bucks... but again its a *badgeress* and half to deal with a real gun.... so many options

[Skarclaw]

You could spray the grips and stock in some of that rubber spray and then paint it black. That way you wouldn't have to worry about wood kits.

[knutti]

I'm still waiting to get my ak47 so i don't really know how much of it is metal already... is the top metal?

 

Would a real flash hider work?

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Here John:

http://img258.echo.cx/my.php?image=ak47pro1cd.jpg

 

so you don't need to wonder what's metal and not

By me of cause.

[W.K.Shuridys]

Here John:

http://img258.echo.cx/my.php?image=ak47pro1cd.jpg

 

so you don't need to wonder what's metal and not

By me of cause.

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Except that the charging handle and faux bolt are plastic.

[knutti]

Except that the charging handle and faux bolt are plastic.

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The charging handle are metal.

[longjohn]

Hmm I think i'm going to buy a cheap romanian sar-1 ak47 and shoot that for a while...

 

Then ill just harvest it for parts

[gunner-airsoft]

here is one of my AK

 

 

rear butt and front handguard and real stuff from poland.

the hand grip are TM plastic grip, but I do re-paint it and it looks better.

 

rear butt cannot accept a battery again so I need to re-wire it, and put the battery same as AK47s.

 

I worked on the bolt carrier also, now it looks like exactly the real one, and it can be pulled to the most rear position.