sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Priced at $60 from Airsoft Global, I just had to get one of these puppies. I have a KSC/KWA Glock 17 GBB with a metal slide as well as a TM Glock 18C GBB. I opted to go with the conversion kit specifically made for the Marui version. There is a KSC/KWA version of the kit available as well. From what I was told, the Marui version has a wider cut out for the slide (so the KSC/KWA version will not work). Installation was a breeze as it only required removing a front screw (which clamps down on the rail frame of the pistol) and replacing the trigger pin with the one supplied. The pistol then needs to be inserted in the kit and holes for the trigger pin matched up to the correct slots and then locked in place with a couple of hex cap screws. Do note that KSC/KWA Glocks will produce a louder noise which really adds to the intimidation factor (How loud is it? Its louder than a WE SCAR GBBR or any other GBB pistol in the market). This is due to the system used by the pistol. The Marui Glock DOES NOT make as loud a noise...however, as with Marui GBB's...you get excellent range as well as accuracy over longer distances (something that KSC/KWA Glocks can not match). ---------------- For those wondering what the packaging looks like...its just a cardboard box. No foam, no inserts. Just a box for the kit and a slot made with a cardboard divider for the 2 side rails (and screws) and charging handle...all of which were in small zip-loc bags. ---------------- The kit is not a straight drop in for the TM G18C as the selector rubs slightly on the inner part of the body kit. I needed to Dremel some material down to make some room for the slide assembly to move freely. With a TM G17, the modifications I did need not be done. Also, the screw that clamps down onto the front of the rail frame will end up making marks on the slot of the rail frame as you screw it in place. Just make some adjustments as you see fit. Personally, its not a big deal to me as you don't really notice it so I just removed some material on my lower frame for easier assembly/ dis-assembly. BTW, the trademarks were covered with electrical tape. No orange tip was painted onto the kit. Edited August 19, 2010 by sacairsoftsn00py Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Seriously ... i SO want this !!! Why do you have to buy all the cool toys before i do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Thanks mate , I have just ordered one on the strength of your review! I will put up some pics/ mini review when it arrives. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 I'm ordering one of the kits that is set up for the TM but I'm going to see if it will work with one of my HFC G17's as I just put a new PGC slide on my TM G17 and It looks so good that I dont want to "hide" it inside the Hera Arms Kit (lol). It would be interesting to compare one of these kits all set up to one of the new GBB rifles that are out there and see how much of a major difference there might be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidewinder-forge Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 sacairsoftsn00py - can you give me the width/height/length of the TM and KSC Glock slides please (accurately as poss)? SAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Losolos Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 my version of the Glock Kit inner Barrel is from a G&G UMG ...with some work it fit in the G18C Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Ill take measurements for the ksc/kwa slide vs. a marui slide my kit is specifically made for the marui model, but my ksc glock 17 works in it as well... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 So...both models of Glocks work? 0_0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 The only real difference (other than internal mechanism) bewteen the KSC and TM Glocks are width with KSC being slimmer by about 1mm. So if you get the TM kit, a KSC Glock will fit with a little wiggle room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_Ocelot Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 That thing looks extremely awesome! What do you think about the build quality / durability of it? I'm considering letting go of my MP7 for something along these lines, so I'm interested to hear more about it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_Ocelot Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Sorry to double post but I can't edit my original one. I have another question, in order to switch between shooting styles on the G18C, do you have to take it apart to flip the switch, or is there an opening that allows it? I know the trademarks say "Not for 18C slide or barrel", so I am guessing that you have to take it apart? I am probably going to be picking one of these up, so I would just like to know so I'm not surprised by it! Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I have another question, in order to switch between shooting styles on the G18C, do you have to take it apart to flip the switch, or is there an opening that allows it? I know the trademarks say "Not for 18C slide or barrel", so I am guessing that you have to take it apart? You have to remove the gun from the kit in order to access the selector. If you notice the side where the logo is on it is slightly elevated to accommodate the selector switch when installed. Real HERA's don't have this relief but AABB went with the design change because most airsofters have G18C's than any other model Glock. On the real HERA, it says "not for C model slide or barrel" because the thing wasn't designed to take the blast internally from a ported barrel and would likely explode if you did, AABB just copied the markings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_Ocelot Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I knew that the trade marks were just for the real one, since the airsoft one is advertised for use with either the G17 or 18C. I was only wondering if there was a way to access the selector switch since he said that there needed to be a little shaving done to get the 18C slide to run smoothly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Well I finally got my Hera kit for my TM G17, pleased with it overall , but a word of warning! On my kit when I tightened up the front side rails, the rear screws were a fraction too long and when I fitted the pistol they scratched the slide (Guarder Alu slide) A simple washer on each of the rail screws sorted the problem , but I still have a pair of scratches about an inch long down each side of the slide's paint! GGGrrrrrr! Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 I was only wondering if there was a way to access the selector switch Cut out a long hole on the side for the selector. I've done it before by request on one of the HERA kits I've made (this was before the acm's were available) and didn't really make it any weaker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danr Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 There's a slight gap at the base of the selector, between the HERA kit and the slide, and you can use any sort of object with a hook on it to manipulate the selector. I found that an allen wrench works perfectly. Not ideal, but it does allow you to change fire modes. However, I'm still thinking about some way of mounting a selector mechanism to the HERA kit. I've got a few ideas, but nothing concrete yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dt00th Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 i like this kits good review btw . also Khmountian have these in $73 deliveried to uk its on my list Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieQB Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Anyone got any details on silencers and extended barrels that will work with this kit? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkpics Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 This is great kit, IF and only if you have a good working pistol to put in it, if you do have a good gun, get this ASAP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peter61 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hello Everybody! Has anyone tested a HFC Glock 17 in this conversion kit? Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidewinder-forge Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Got mine today and whipped up a threaded (14x1mm CCW) adapter to fit a silent option suppressor. Adapter fits in the HERA's standard muzzle piece and is locked in place with a grub screw in one of the pre threaded holes. SAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 How can you tell what version of AABB HERA kit you receive (TM or KSC)? I have a TM G18c and ordered the corresponding HERA kit. However, the bottom part of the kit towards the trigger guard splits the frame halves about 2-3mm with the GBB inserted. Is this normal? Has anyone tried using a TM G18c with KSC kit? That being said, I noticed that the interior of the kit rubs against the selector. Also, the 4 screws that hold the 2 trigger pin plates to the kit are about 1mm too long and will scratch up your G18c frame (good excuse to get a Guarder frame). I'll be taking a dremel to all these areas. Also, I'm not much for fabricating my own parts but a cheap and simple longer shroud would be great. Anyone machinists out there willing to make something like that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidewinder-forge Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 My Army Glock (a TM clone?) fits ok and definitely doesn't force the halves apart. The kit isn't meant to be used with an 18c which prob explains the selector rub. What do you mean by a longer shroud, do you mean the muzzle? SAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Yes, longer muzzle. It feels like it's missing a front end. Still strangely attractive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidewinder-forge Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Here's mine with a standard M16 muzzle screwed onto my silencer adapter. I could make a longer version of the standard kit's muzzle too. SAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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