R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Hey all, I am hereby calling all experts to help me out with a conundrum. I am trying to compile a list of all AEG gearbox versions and I need the help of all the experts here. First off, No guesses, no "I think it might be" responses, and no "chances are..." responses please - this needs to be accurate information. So, here's the list so far... Version 1 Gearbox... TM FAMAS F1 TM FAMAS SV Version 2 Gearbox... TM MP5-A Series TM M16 TM XM177e2 TM M733 ICS MP5-A Series Version 3 Gearbox... TM G36c TM AK47 TM AK47 Spetznas TM MP5k Version 6 Gearbox... TM Thompson SMG TM P90 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- So my question is, can you help fill in the blanks? What gearbox does the TM G3-SAS, the TM G3, the TM Uzi, the TM AUG series use? Any more? We're going for a complete list here people - I know you won't let me down Cheers all Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 G3 series = Version 2. Sig 552 = Version 3 AUG= Version 3 & you may aswell say that AK series = Version 3 (as you missed off the AK47S) Gimme a few mins and i'll think of some more. Would also be good to include makes, as ICS M4s use differnet gearboxes etc. EDIT: sorry i see you've included the makes. Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Cheers for the info Kronic. Yeah, the ICS M4 is somewhat of an anomaly (as with the Systema Rifles) as it has a custom 2-piece gearbox. BTW - we don't see you nearly as much as we should around these parts mate. Good to see ya Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 TM M14 - Version 7. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Tm - G3 has a version 2. WGCshop.com has the listings next to their names. I'll write the others down for you in a sec. TM Uzi - version 5 MP5 k - version 3, same for the PDW Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 ^^ Bast thats where i was off to lol. Yea, i do try R22, just there doesn't seem to be but to post about! Saying that i'm making a thread later. Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 PSG1 v4 same boxes in mp5 sd series as in the A series all SIG series uses v3 ACADEMY L85 uses a sligtly modified v1 CA mp5 and ar15s = v2 do you want a "windowed"/ " no window" info on the v2 boxes? Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Wow, within minutes we have a gaggle of experts rallying to the cause Cheers all So, an updated list goes... Version 1 Gearbox... TM FAMAS F1 TM FAMAS SV Academy L85 (slight variation) Version 2 Gearbox... TM MP5-A & SD Series TM M16 TM XM177e2 TM M733 ICS MP5-A Series TM G3 Series CA MP5-A Series CA Armalite Series Version 3 Gearbox... TM G36c TM AK47 / 74 Series TM MP5k & MP5k-PDW TM AUG Series TM Sig Series CA G36c Version 4 Gearbox... TM PSG-1 Version 5 Gearbox... TM Uzi Version 6 Gearbox... TM Thompson SMG TM P90 Version 7 Gearbox... TM M14 So what else uses the v2 and v3 gearboxes (the most popular gearboxes)? And what else is missed off the list? Cheers all ----------------------------------------------------- do you want a "windowed"/ " no window" info on the v2 boxes? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Windowed??? Not sure what you mean there. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 AK47S AK Beta spetz (the origninal 1997 version with no stock) ^^ Version 3 Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 The p90 uses a slightly different V6 to the tommy gun, the motor is held parrallel to the spring and piston like the V1, on the Tommy gun its in the pistol grip like on the V2/3. not a huge deal really but still worth noteing PSG1 is V4 with its longer piston stroke(ooh matron) Uzi is V5 , made with a lot more plastic in it that the others, its unique in that the piston travels towards the back of the gun too create the "recoil" effect , and the barrel actually passes throught the cylinder. and M14 is the V7 edit: the academy L85 uses a fairly close clone of the V1 gearbox. the CA 36 and is shorter brothers use the V3 Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 The p90 uses a slightly different V6 to the tommy gun, the motor is held parrallel to the spring and piston like the V1, on the Tommy gun its in the pistol grip like on the V2/3. not a huge deal really but still worth noteing <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cheers for the info Caz. Yeah, the P90 and Thompson both use the same gearbox though don't they? Just an extra piece on the Thompson that directs the motor's housing in a different direction? Essentially though, it's still the same gearbox isn't it? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
bullzebub Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Wow, within minutes we have a gaggle of experts rallying to the cause Cheers all So, an updated list goes... Version 1 Gearbox... TM FAMAS F1 TM FAMAS SV Version 2 Gearbox... TM MP5-A & SD Series TM M16 TM XM177e2 TM M733 ICS MP5-A Series TM G3 Series CA MP5-A Series CA Armalite Series Version 3 Gearbox... TM G36c TM AK47 / 74 Series TM MP5k & MP5k-PDW TM AUG Series TM Sig Series Version 4 Gearbox... TM PSG-1 Version 5 Gearbox... TM Uzi Version 6 Gearbox... TM Thompson SMG TM P90 Version 7 Gearbox... TM M14 So what else uses the v2 and v3 gearboxes (the most popular gearboxes)? And what else is missed off the list? Cheers all ----------------------------------------------------- Windowed??? Not sure what you mean there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> a hole in the back of the mechbox for the locking tabs in the more recent TM mechboxes. the windowed versions comapible with the one without Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 the windowed versions comapible with the one without <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aha I see. Nah, not important for this list, but if you want to provide the info, it may be helpful for some other members here Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 You ask AK 74. There is no Airsoft AK74 (unless you include Guardr conversion kits, which use the TM AK47) Sorry to be a picky *albartroth*, but.. meh Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Cheers for the info Caz. Yeah, the P90 and Thompson both use the same gearbox though don't they? Just an extra piece on the Thompson that directs the motor's housing in a different direction? Essentially though, it's still the same gearbox isn't it? Cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes the tommy gun has a different motor cage and trigger contacts.the main caseing and all gubbins therein, are the same Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 You ask AK 74. There is no Airsoft AK74 (unless you include Guardr conversion kits, which use the TM AK47) Sorry to be a picky *albartroth*, but.. meh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gotcha. Although Guarder are/were releasing an AK47 weren't/aren't they? (Not sure if it has been released yet). So all the TM variants use v3, and the Guarder one is unknown at the mo - correct? yes the tommy gun has a different motor cage and trigger contacts.the main caseing and all gubbins therein, are the same <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
staticzero Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 G&G UMG - Version 3 Star UMG - Version 3 G&G Armalite series - Version 2 G&P Armalite series including the SR25 - Version 2 (Some G&P SR25s use an elongated v2 gearbox, with a longer cylinder set. However they can all use v2 as well, as long as you have the long nozzle.) Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Gotcha. Although Guarder are/were releasing an AK47 weren't/aren't they? (Not sure if it has been released yet). So all the TM variants use v3, and the Guarder one is unknown at the mo - correct? Cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ICS and CA are releasing an AK74. No idea what gearbox they'll be using though. Probs a V.3 copy, but the ICS one is a split box. Link to post Share on other sites
Denton Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 G&G GR16 series,namely there M4 range uses version 2 gearboxs Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 OMFG FFS R22, SEARCH YOU NOOB!!! http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/a...c/gearboxes.htm I take it you're updating that. Just there's a few there that we may have missed... or not. Link to post Share on other sites
sp00n Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 Nobody seems to have mentioned this yet, but the AUG has a V3 box. edit: nevermind :\ Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 OMFG FFS R22, SEARCH YOU NOOB!!! http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/a...c/gearboxes.htm I take it you're updating that. Just there's a few there that we may have missed... or not. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hehehe, cheers mate Yeah, I noticed that list, but it doesn't seem particularly accurate. For example, the CA36c is listed as BOTH V2 and V3 gearboxes - Which is it? Plus, where is the G3SAS, the M14, the AUG series, and the AK Series? It is somewhat incomplete, so I am looking for up to date info from the experts here. Cheers for the link though - shows some people read this forum for the 'articles' (sound like a Playboy reviewer ) Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 G3SAS = V2 All AUG = V3 All M4/M16/M15 etc = V2 All G3/Mc51/Mp5/Mp5sd = V2 All AK47/Spetz/&4(tbr) = V3 All UMP = V3 All G36 (CA, TM, C + K + FULLSIZE) = V3 TM M14 = V7 CA249 = Custom designed. Link to post Share on other sites
kronic Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 hehehe, cheers mate Yeah, I noticed that list, but it doesn't seem particularly accurate. For example, the CA36c is listed as BOTH V2 and V3 gearboxes - Which is it? Plus, where is the G3SAS, the M14, the AUG series, and the AK Series? It is somewhat incomplete, so I am looking for up to date info from the experts here. Cheers for the link though - shows some people read this forum for the 'articles' (sound like a Playboy reviewer ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I knew that you knew about it, i just wanted to be a cocky git Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 ...i just wanted to be a cocky git <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Success!!! hehehehehe Oh, and cheers Darklite for the update - after a couple more posts, I'll add your info to the list Link to post Share on other sites
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