Moriquende Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Did they have scopes back then?(not WWII) Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Based on the numerous (and 100% accurate, I'm sure) Westerns I've seen, they did have rudimentary scopes. Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Here you go, a brass "telescopic" optic sight for western era guns: http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info....roducts_id=4040 Price tag might be a bit overwhelming, though, as also fitting it into airsoft lever/NBB guns... EDIT: A small but significant typo... Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 What the... how old are those things exactly? I've got one turning up tomorrow in actual fact, handled one last week and they are very nice, painfully squared-off at the rear of the grip though so mebbe taking a file to the wood there is in order. Really looking forward to getting it; one of 2 sniper rifles arriving tomorrow I had no idea that this was almost western-era, no idea at all.... Guess I need to get Joe Kidd on DVD then Never even heard of it before ... edit: likewise a significant typo Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Here you go, a brass "telescopic" optic sight for western era guns: http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info....roducts_id=4040 Price tag might be a bit overwhelming, though, as also fitting it into airsoft lever/NBB guns... Nice find, Vektor. My wallet says "ouch." What the... how old are those things exactly? I've got one turning up tomorrow in actual fact, handled one last week and they are very nice, painfully squared-off at the rear of the grip though so mebbe taking a file to the wood there is in order. Really looking forward to getting it; one of 2 sniper rifles arriving tomorrow I had no idea that this was almost western-era, no idea at all.... Heh, I just ordered one today. From NY Airsoft of all places, a site I'd never heard of until yesterday. But it offered the best deal for the US (with an extra magazine, that is). Guess I need to get Joe Kidd on DVD then Never even heard of it before ... Here's a few images from the movie: It's a little different, but still. The movie is ok to good. It's got Clint and Robert Duvall. Plus, there are a few absolutely badass scenes (Clint pulling a guy down the stairs by his belt -- you'll know the one when you see it). But it also has one of those laughable Anglo-to-Mexican conversions, and not a believable one like Jack Palance in The Professionals. This one features John Saxon. Worth a rent at least. Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Now that I've seen The Professionals with Lee Marvin (among other notables), there's one more gun to add to the available Western arsenal: the Tanaka 1897 Trench Gun: Marvin uses it throughout the film (and lends it to Burt Lancaster for a bit, too). If one could remove the vented shroud from the Tanaka version (which looks possible), it'd be a dead-on replica of the movie version. Here's the best picture I could find: Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 If one could remove the vented shroud from the Tanaka version (which looks possible), it'd be a dead-on replica of the movie version. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Tanaka´s releasing a "Police" version of their M1897, without the heat shield! http://www.la-gunshop.com/new_hontai/img/5098_1.jpg Don´t know exactly when, but this the news according to LA Gunshop. Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Well hot dang, Vektor, you are Johnny-on-the-spot with news! Thanks, man. Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hehe, not really, just happened to spot that. But thanks anyway! Speak... Eh, writing of which, Guns´n´Guys seem to stock that new Tanaka M1897 version already. And spare shotshells too! Price for the "Police" version (while GnG still designates the newer version as "Trench Gun", it´s not the same) seems to be exactly the same as earlier Trench Gun version. http://www.gunsnguys.com Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 That has been puzzling me too ..... Now what I reckon is; either they got the picture wrong for the new police shotgun, (unlikely) or, they just want to sell off the ones they've got to make way for the new police shotgun because its going to be more popular for some reason, so they disguise the promotion as a new product Busted? Well consider that the shotguns/smg's > tanaka page does not show more than one M1887 trench gun, and they always update the `new product` and actual relevant product page at the same time. I'll be waiting for the new model of course Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 My guess is that the guys at GnG are having small glitch with their website code. I can´t pop up any window for product close-up from their "New Product" page, while I can do that easily from their other pages, including Shotguns/SMGs -> Tanaka page. I assume they get it fixed in no time soon. Their webpage isn´t really too "user-friendly", but dealing with those guys through online is such a bliss anyway that one can easily forgive their somewhat "primitive" online service... Their model designations do seem to have little logic, but the gun in their "New Product" page IS different than the gun in Shotguns -> Tanaka page. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Speaking of new stuff at G&G, what's that "Winchester Special" I see there? Is it a new working version? Seriously, though, I hadn't heard about any new Marushin 1892 editions. Anyone know any details? Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Oh, bugger. I didn´t get to edit my previous message anymore, but here´s a correction to my blooper: Once I got the GnG website working again on my computer, I spotted that the Tanaka 1897 in GnG´s News page is actually the same as in their Shotguns/SMGs section after all (at least the same gun is pictured). Altough they have different description. Don´t really know what´s it all about, but maybe in time that will make some sense. I think I spotted a Marushin ´92 Special version in some other webpage already, but can´t remember where... I recall it was claimed to be full metal/real wood, but I can´t remember anything about, say, improved mechanism etc. Pricewise it doesn´t seem too bad, if it´s fully metallized but only HKD400 more expensive than regular Marushin ´92. If it only had octagonal barrel, but then it needed to be a M1892 Carbine model... Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 The old M1892s are all wood and metal anyway though....I've got one and thats the best part about it Shame they just mounted the forearm and receiver together at a bloody angle though, and not straight in-line with each other :( Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 New items with which to resurrect this thread! Dentrinity has new CAW aluminum barrels for the Tanaka S.A.A.s, in three sizes: Civilian, Artillery, and Cavalry. Thing is, it's $90USD after shipping. I wish Dentrinity carried the no-hop inner barrels that WGC carries, so I could combine orders. $29 shipping for an aluminum barrel seems very steep. It looks like it includes a new inner barrel too, doesn't it? So I suppose you could convert whatever sized gun you had into one of the other sizes with this purchase. I think I'd like to upgrade my Civilian to an Artillery. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Helloooooooo NURSE! Link to post Share on other sites
Moriquende Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Now all I need is a metal frame Link to post Share on other sites
blokhed Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Me too. Unfortunately, it looks like Dentrinity used to have them (though the silver frame would look weird on my otherwise black S.A.A.), but are sold out. Here's hoping for a re-release or a new release! Link to post Share on other sites
Big Bad John Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 First post, yeah. Anyways, seeing as this is all about western guns, does anyone know if the ktw winchester m1873 carbine have a hop-up or not, because on redwolf airsoft they say it doesn't, but on the teamkgb review of the gun they say it has a fixed hop-up. I would really like to know this as i love winchesters and seeing as you can replace the spring with a more powerful one, it having a hop-up would be the selling point for me. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 I'm looking at one too as it happens.... Link to post Share on other sites
dirtyharry.44 Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I have 5 Tanaka SAA'S - 2 Black H.W. Calvarys, 1 Artillery H.W. Silver, 1 Artillery DC, and a JT Civilian. The DC and one of the Calvarys have problems, That I think can be fixed. Earlier today, I put a few coats of clear paint on my Calvary that does work, and IMO I reprduced Tanakas Midnight Blue Finish. Also earlier today - I fixed the JT Civilian, as it had that spring problem thing, and a dot of goop fixed that up. I also have a Marushin 8mm Black Derringer, and Just ordered about 10 minutes afo, a Marushin Superblackhawk 10.5'' Black with 12 extra shells. I also have a pair of boots, and a pair of very tight wranglers lol. I have a hat, but I dont know where it is, and I am planning on getting a reproduction of Clint Eastwoods poncho, or make my own. I have 2 SAA rigs, a black one for a 7.5'', and a brown one for a 5.5''. what do I need? I know - a horse . Hopefully the blackhawk wont be out of stock. I really want an 1892, but have heard to many bad things, which is why I just bought a Non fireing one woth a loop lever like John Waynes. Hippy gave me a lot of info on the Super Blackhawks, anyone else got feedback on them? heres some links to some of my videos. SAA spinning x 2 SAA shooting x 2 Shooting silver Artillery Spinning Black Artillery PICTURES Reproduced Midnight blue finish JT special-I took the paint off the cylinder and hammer, thought it would look cool. EDIT: Spelling Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Looks very cool mate, VERY nice... Looking foraward to seeing the 10.5" in there too Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 First post, yeah. Anyways, seeing as this is all about western guns, does anyone know if the ktw winchester m1873 carbine have a hop-up or not, because on redwolf airsoft they say it doesn't, but on the teamkgb review of the gun they say it has a fixed hop-up. I would really like to know this as i love winchesters and seeing as you can replace the spring with a more powerful one, it having a hop-up would be the selling point for me. Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As for the KTW ´73, it has a hopup (fixed one). But as Team KGBs review implied, it´s quite subtle one and doesn´t improve the performance all that much. Team KGB told that cocking action is easy, but I´d have to disagree on that one. Having had the priviledge of shooting several rounds through real Winchester lever guns and comparing directly to that, the KTW ´73 has really stiff cycling action. In occasion I even need to move the gun from my shoulder to my hip to operate the lever properly. So, a stronger spring would make the lever even harder to manipulate, slowing down the lever action´s greates benefit (cycling the action while holding an aim). Plus, the internals holding the spring (guide rod and assembly) are plastic. I wouldn´t count on them even with stock spring for prolonged skirmish usage, less with upgrade springs. And being somewhat marginal gun even for a KTW, spare parts are awfully hard to come by if you break something. Just a word of caution, that is. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Thats answered all the questions I had about them, anyway. +1 to you Mr. Vektor. Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Thanks mate, no prob! Just to straighten out, I really do like my ´73 a lot. It´s nicely made and beautiful toy but those few little quirks make it sub-par, skirmish-wise. Of course, if everyone had western style guns and no AEGs were allowed, things would be different. Against single action revolvers and other repeater rifles & shotguns it might stand a slim chance! Link to post Share on other sites
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