jordan2139 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 if i attacha ics m4QD silencer to my ics m4 how much fps would it decrease? Link to post Share on other sites
TheEgo Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I didn't notice much of a drop at all, if anything maybe 5fps (yea using a chrono not a guesstimate). But that drop could have been other variables, me shoving the gun into dirt etc.. Battery not topped up the same. I bought it for the look, but was very surprised at how well it actually performs. A very noticable quitening effect. Link to post Share on other sites
TheEdgeCrusher Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I bought it for the look, but was very surprised at how well it actually performs. A very noticable quitening effect. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I actually don't think it makes any difference at all. Most of the sound is from the gears and motor, not from the barrel. Later Edge Link to post Share on other sites
sp00n Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 if i attacha ics m4QD silencer to my ics m4 how much fps would it decrease? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> None. Airsoft suppessors are 100% for looks only. Link to post Share on other sites
bernie3674 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 it won't make any difference on speed, period. unless the foam inside touches the bb, then it will reduce the speed Link to post Share on other sites
jordan2139 Posted November 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 so there will be so silencing affect whatso ever? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 No, because that would be illegal. Link to post Share on other sites
SgtBojangles Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 No, because that would be illegal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Stupid US laws... ::runs and hides from Big Brother:: Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 is it illegal to suppress an airsoft gun in the US? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Once again, YES. Because that would mean it could silence a real gun too. Which is illegal, unless you have a license which is a PITA to get. Link to post Share on other sites
TheEgo Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 None. Airsoft suppessors are 100% for looks only. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I have the ICS silencer and it does work, it doesn't silence the gun, it changes the tone of the sound, which makes it harder to hear, or pin point where the sound comes from so maybe it is illegal in the US. But it certainly works in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Once again, YES. Because that would mean it could silence a real gun too. Which is illegal, unless you have a license which is a PITA to get. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> afaik, the pressures of firing a live round would cause an airsoft silencer to explode because they aren't built to handle that kind of psi. basically: (hypothetical figures) Airsoft gun silencer (supressor) can handle 150psi airsoft gun produces 50psi RS supressor can handle 3000psi+ RS weapon produces anything from 700psi+ therefore, the pressure created in the firing would totally destroy an airsoft "silencer". am i right? or deluded? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 afaik, the pressures of firing a live round would cause an airsoft silencer to explode because they aren't built to handle that kind of psi. basically: (hypothetical figures) Airsoft gun silencer (supressor) can handle 150psi airsoft gun produces 50psi RS supressor can handle 3000psi+ RS weapon produces anything from 700psi+ therefore, the pressure created in the firing would totally destroy an airsoft "silencer". am i right? or deluded? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Listen. I know what I said doesn't make logical sense, but it doesn't have to. The ATF have established these laws and will prosecute if they find out. This topic has been discussed many times on these boards, and every time, the conclusion was the the statement I just made. Don't want to seem like a pain in the *albartroth*, but this is just one of those things that gets repeated over and over. Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 ok then, i don't live in the states anyway. i just thought that it was unfair for my American Airsoft bretheren. Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 That's alright, and it is unfair :,( Link to post Share on other sites
SilentScope Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 The exact wording of the law is that in order to be considered a "sound suppressor", the device must "appreciably" lower the noise of a firearm. You could easily prove that an airsoft sound suppressor does not sufficiently muffle the noise of a real firearm in any court. The risk of you being charged for owning an “unlicensed” airsoft suppressor is so remote it does no good to even be considered. Its like saying its illegal to own a flash suppressor on an airsoft gun because it was made after 1994, making it "Post Ban." Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 afaik, those laws have lost fruition, and post ban Assault rifles and the like are legal now. I.A.N.A.L., so don't quote me. Link to post Share on other sites
PolarBear Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 None. Airsoft suppessors are 100% for looks only. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Umm... not to sound like a smart *albartroth*, but I'll make you a deal. Listen to the muzzle snap of my ICS m4 without a silencer, then slap a silencer on and say they're 100% for looks. It may not "Silence" it persay, but it sure does dampen the snap. Someone may say that it's the piston head that makes the snap, well do me a favor, slap an empty mag in your AEG (to keep air from comming out of the feed nozzle) then pull the trigger with the muzzle by your ear, you'll hear the snap. Do the same with a silencer. For me and my ICS m4 it takes care of it a good deal. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentScope Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 afaik, those laws have lost fruition, and post ban Assault rifles and the like are legal now. I.A.N.A.L., so don't quote me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is a difference between federal and state laws here in the United States. The federal ban initiative on the manufacture and sale of weapons considered "assault rifles" did expire last year. However, the majority of the blue states, or states with less liberal gun laws, kept the laws outlined by the ban as a part of their own law. So for instance here in New York state, I still would not be able to legally buy a rifle with a flash hider made after 1994. (I think the year could be earlier than that here in New York, but Im not sure.) Link to post Share on other sites
Canasian Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 I have 2 silencers, both jammed full of foam rings. They're delicious. They more than dampen sound. They make loud pops LUMPY. IT is GREAT. I know it's illegal but hell if I go to jail! ICS silencers do work too. I heard some of the newer ones don't but older ones do. Full of foam rings. Delicious I must say!! Link to post Share on other sites
systema Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Back on topic now... Which Quick Detach Silencers can be mounted OVER a M4 flashhider? The problem I have apparently, is that the previous owner somehow glued the metal flashhider onto the gun, and I'd like to put a QD silencer over it. Link to post Share on other sites
PolarBear Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Back on topic now... Which Quick Detach Silencers can be mounted OVER a M4 flashhider? The problem I have apparently, is that the previous owner somehow glued the metal flashhider onto the gun, and I'd like to put a QD silencer over it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The ICS m4QD silencer will fit over the flashider. Link to post Share on other sites
systema Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Thanks. To confirm, it will fit over this?: So it clamps onto the flashhider itself, and not, for instance, the barrel, correct? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 I can't tell what that flash hider looks like, but if it's a normal M16 (birdcage they call it) flash hider, then yes it will. Basically, the ICS QD silencer goes over the flash hider and then locks in using a sort of fork thing that clamps into the two notches on the gun side of the flash hider. Hope that is clear Link to post Share on other sites
systema Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Yep, it's a "birdcage" Flashhider then. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
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