Lance Jackass Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Hi, has anyone got any ideas how i would go about building an L98A1 spring action cadet rifle? L98A1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Go and buy this: http://www.bbguns.co.uk/857_1_1122628.html Then add the gimpy handle and tape to it. Job done. Seriously, I think there are spring versions of the SA80 out there which have the iron sights too, if that's important to you. Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Yeach. L98 - not a nice gun. We use them occassionally at CCF and...eurgh. I think it's pretty universal in our section that we want M16s Still, if you MUST have one (for training or something), then you should just buy an L85 springer and maybe some Milliput. Mix the Milliput and you could perhaps make some kind of dodgy parts from it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 cheers i never said i liked them. 13 stoppages in 13 rounds....that was lucky! i wanna make some though to make training more interesting Link to post Share on other sites
Un_FriendlyFire Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Personally L85s are way more fun especially with BFAs. Dont know why youd want one but anyway, ull need a rail in front of the cocking handle area and then you mount the gimpy cocking handle on that Link to post Share on other sites
Carson Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 I went L98 shooting on Saturday with the ATC, no stoppages or anything. You only get stoppages if the rifle has not been cleaned well or you cock the weapon too slowly. Oh and how can they be ugly, there not that much different to the L85. Link to post Share on other sites
Un_FriendlyFire Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Well apart from...the L85 is semi automatic and also has rock and roll mode? I also agree with cocking properly and cleaning Same here about ATC where u from mate? Link to post Share on other sites
Vindicare Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 ol Carson is 2524 Oakington along with me. Why anybody would WANT to create an L98 I have no idea, the L85 is so much sexier and better in all respects. Link to post Share on other sites
Un_FriendlyFire Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Hear Hear, 2407 Yateley squadron meself. Now lets just not get started on the L86 shall we? You lot do BFAs in your wing? Link to post Share on other sites
Vindicare Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 mmmmm L86 Yes well I'm sure we'd all love to use BFA's in the wing, however our group Captain has seen fit to dissallow all Blank firing for us! No blnk firing L98's, L85's or L86's... Not even pistols! Why? Especially when other wings do it all the time! Link to post Share on other sites
Carson Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Yer tell me about it. I dont see why the ACF get to use blanks n stuff and we don't. How gay. But i guess thats life. BTW what rank are you Un_FriendlyFire? Yer I agree with you Carver (Vindicare) oh how much i'd love to use the L86 or even the L85 on days out for shooting. [Hate what they have done with the Shooting badges and stuff now, I'd rather keep my Beloved RAF Marksman badge] Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Keeping weapons clean is great on the range...where you talk about using them. I've never had a single stoppage on the range. But when i got 13 stoppages in 13 rounds was in the field on blank firing exercise. I know how to cock the weapon properly im a L/Cpl in the ACF, i teach people how to use the things. Also yes it was clean, i'd allready cleaned it thoroughly cleaned it twice that day. No one likes to accept that L98s are ###### when you put blanks in them, but its the truth, because i've never had a problem with live. ATC allways complain about hardly doing any blank firing, but if you wanted to run around and shoot blanks then ACF would have been better for you. But i guess your more into flying and those sort of activities. That sounded bitchy but it wasnt meant to be. My problems with the L98 airsoft version are: -The SA80 flash eliminator on the barrel -Finding an ironsight version cheap enough -Swopping the rear ironsight for a a cadet rear leaf sight -Building a replica cocking handle and extension + fitting it to the airsoft piston -Making weapon controls (Bolt release catch etc.) work -Fitting an original foregrip to the main body -Upgrading it internally Has anyone got any ideas? cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Major Rambo Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 have to agree on the almost predictable L98 stoppages, been a while since i was in the ACF getting old now you see, but we where on annual camp up in Catterick and while out on exercise using blanks we had 15 rounds, first 5 or 6 went through no problems but then it ###### down with rain and the rest pretty much jammed once the action got a spot of water on it, so there you go ###### ###### and more ######, and yes the weapon had been cleaned about 3 hours earlier, the newer models are supposed to be better but i woudnt know about that so no comment Link to post Share on other sites
michael_collins Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 I cant understand why people defend the L85A1 and A2 by saying "oh but it works if you keep it properly cleaned", surely you need to do that with 90% of firearms, sounds like a copout to me is all. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted December 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 They only work when theres no rain, and then only if theres no dust around or mud. All of these laboratory style conditions are found on modern battlefields of course. There was a time where i prayed for 3 mags but now i know that it won't work after 5 rounds so theres no point! Back to my post....can anyone help me? Link to post Share on other sites
FUmiYAsu Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 yea....they just doesnt work.....got like 15 stopage the other day in the field.....and this is a single shot weapon...I can't see how they've manage to do this..... talking about RAF shooting badges....wht've they changed? I hated the marking system thou....cuz I got 90 out of 90 but I still got the same marksman badge as some 80/90 guy....which is not fair.... Link to post Share on other sites
Carson Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I'd rather they hadn't changed the marksman badges, I love my RAF Marksman badge too much and dont want to get rid of it. Although i still haven't got ATC marksman yet. Link to post Share on other sites
FUmiYAsu Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 well...I dun really care now since i quit....didn't like teaching... Link to post Share on other sites
Un_FriendlyFire Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Im a cpl in hants and IOW wing. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted January 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 ok im considering going ahead with this idea now i've found a cheap springer for a base. But how would i build an ok to decent metal body? Because i don't want to keep the original plastic one. Cheers guys Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I thought about that, as part of the LSW project. The basics are easy - a simple bit of metal sheet, punched & folded. The hard part is all of the "extra" stuff on the side (e.g. the workings for the port cover - I assume that it's present?) I looked at doing just the top half, but have shelved the idea for the moment. This might come back, depending upon how I end up making the custom hand guard, and mounting the front barrel "strut" - I might end up needing the space in the receiver for the battery! Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Eventually i want to have a custom l98a1 and an lsw. Ive found websites where you can buy the parts but its £85 for an lsw bipod and £55 for a forend. Ouch! The workings for the port cover would be ripped off a springer rifle. Im looking at getting a springer rifle then using that as amodel to make the metalbody from. Is it possible without a workshop of tools? I mean is there any lathe work etc involved? Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hokay. The biggie is the width of the body - from everyone I've spoken to (including Steve at Combat South, who's made one), the springer is modelled on the standard L85. Which is too narrow to take a FA-MAS gearbox. I've heard that the P90 'box is thinner, but I haven't seen a P90-based SA80. I have seen a couple of FA-MAS based L85s based on the Academy AEG. In fact, when I get around to diddling with the TM gearbox, I'll have one myself. An LSW, if everything goes to plan Link to post Share on other sites
Whitedingo Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 If you're going to pop a P90 gearbox in there, you're going to have to replace the hop up unit with a different one, I believe the M4 would work fine. I've heard from a few people that have done this, but I don't remember their email addresses at the moment..... Link to post Share on other sites
Banzai Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 found a great guide from one of the member here! http://royalmarines.mine.nu/sa80/sa80.php Link to post Share on other sites
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