joeking27 Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Incidentally, that's why overhead lines have about 40,000v going through them. If the voltage was halved, the cross-sectional area of the cable would need to be doubled. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought the voltage was high to reduce reisitance. R=I/V. So for x ampage, moer voltage is better to reduce resisitance, and hence energy loss through resisitance. Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Anyway what countries use 240v besides the UK? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Last time I checked, China (that big one across a strait from Japan) does. Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Shao I know where China is... Unlike most americans. Just didn't know they used 240v. Link to post Share on other sites
Longhairedhippy Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 then again, china is also responsible for cheapo springers. what can we assume from this? Springers=Communism. Link to post Share on other sites
Zed Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Great logic how about China makes cheap clothes. Communisim = anti-nakedness. America makes SUVs. Capatialism = pollution. Awww ###### its all true, i take back my sarcasim... anyway, other 240V countries are NZ, Oz and HK. I suppose other ex-colonies might be too. India? I asume Canada is 110? It does seem somewhat shortsighted to not make it easily compatible, i suppose you can always buy a step-down converter, but that isnt easy to lug about to sites. Link to post Share on other sites
martin Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Since when is Japan 110 v ? The story that was posted online says its 100 and its very easy to fix but will add little something to the cost. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Err - Doesn't ALL of Europe work on 220V, which is pretty much 240V in real money...? That's You-Rope for you Fox News viewers Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 The way I see it, the daft thing is that it's the easiest thing in the world to make a dual-voltage transformer. If you use a switch-mode transformer (like a laptop) then it'll work at anything between 100v and 250v anyway. If you are using an induction-coil transformer you just use a centre-tapped transformer. This, basically, has 2 coils on it and you use one for 110v and 2 for 240v. A 16 year old kid knows to buy centre-tapped transformers in case he wants to swap voltages at some point. Obviously it's not that TM "forgot" to use centre-tapped transformers it's just that they didn't consider it. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 I think Marui read all the negative comments on the AEP and thought "Screw those guys, let's make them pay extra to use this thing!" So, thanks to all those who have bitched about the G18C Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Well, given RR's latest info (now they have actually TESTED it - First report I've seen by people who HAVE, so kudos guys, after my comments earlier in this thread) a lot of people might be thinking twice about sinking GBB money into an EBB which doesn't blowback. Performance is disappointing, cycling on semi slow and accuracy limited. 'full' details at http://www.renegaderecon.com Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Kinda glad I got an P90TR today instead of ordering an 18C since my local site doesn't have CQB just woodland. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 And once again, TM disappoints us. Bah . Ah well, I still want to have a play with one. Just have to wait. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Performance is disappointing, cycling on semi slow and accuracy limited. 'full' details at http://www.renegaderecon.com Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> HAHAHA! Well, I have to say that this surprised me about as much as when Boy George first admitted he was gay. One the one hand, respect to RR for eating their previous words and telling the truth about the AEP. On the other hand, it kinda makes them out to be gullible chumps who were willing to believe anything they were told. It seems, to me, that a gaggle of idiots on a web forum (us) had a more realistic view of how the AEP would perform than a bunch of so-called experts. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Hmm, I have no problem with acknowledging the performance of the thing when it's the views of people who have handled it. The problem recently has been the number of people knocking something they haven't even seen, let alone handled. Anyway, I'm sure we'll soon figure out how to upgrade, improve and rape the hell out of it. Link to post Share on other sites
PSAG Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 An 8 or 9 volt batt would probably fix the slow semi problem. Semi is what I'd use this gun for. Would be nice if they made a revolver one of these tho (not full auto ofcourse... omg 6 shot full auto!!) Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 I just hope TM works out the bugs before they make another model using the AEP gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Boy George is GAY??!?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Don't worry, at least Freddie Mercury died straight. And I'm sure TM will make an electric revolver. Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 The only way an electric revolver would work, would be if the used a system like the PSG-1 did, where after the trigger was pulled the piston cocked. Link to post Share on other sites
PSAG Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 That was a good system. Instant response from the gun. Hope they do it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Don't worry, at least Freddie Mercury died straight. And I'm sure TM will make an electric revolver. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So, what is life like in this alternate universe of which you speak? Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 That was a good system. Instant response from the gun. Hope they do it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> PSG-1 good system bad gun, there was one thing I never got if, the trigger releases the piston then cocks it, , how does the first shot get fired? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 So, what is life like in this alternate universe of which you speak? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Peachy. Margaret Thatcher wins FHMs "Sexiest Woman" vote every year, and Star Wars Episode 1 was good. I think someone suggested an exteranl battery pack linked by a lanyard. Anyone got any thoughts on the feasibility of that? Link to post Share on other sites
Longhairedhippy Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 PSG-1 good system bad gun, there was one thing I never got if, the trigger releases the piston then cocks it, , how does the first shot get fired? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you must cock the gun manually to load the first shot. Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 I think someone suggested an exteranl battery pack linked by a lanyard. Anyone got any thoughts on the feasibility of that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Put bluntly, it sucks. Remember when you had a walkman? How often did the earphone connector snuff it and require re-soldering or a new pair of earphones? Think about how much flexing and pulling a pair of earphones receive compared to the lanyard connected to a gun. The only decent solution, for me, would be dummy LAM units with batteries inside. Even then, however, you're not really solving the problem, just applying a band-aid to it. I don't see how battery capacity is gonna be the downfall of the AEP. My G19 only sees about 2 or 3 mags-worth of use per skirmish. 80-odd shots. Surely the AEP battery can manage that? The issue is more to do with the viscious-circle that the need for bigger batteries represents. To make the gun accurate at longer range you need more power. The ONLY way to get more power is by bunging a stronger spring in. You bung a stronger spring in and you put more strain on the internals, as well as requiring more power to wind the spring. Having invented and fitted the stronger spring, reinforced gearbox and upgraded gears we are now at the stage where an upgraded battery might be useful.... ...except that all the upgrades we've already carried out mean we need an even bigger battery to actually make real progress. I dunno. To be honest, I can't see the AEP being reliable enough, after upgrades, that people will bother producing, or doing, the upgrades. Looking into my crystal ball I see a future where customers get sick of broken gears and faulty electrical connections. I see companies stopping selling parts for the AEP after about 6 months and, at the same time, I see the price of the AEP dropping to about the same as the price of TMs NBBs and AEPs filling roughly the same market space. And, far be it from me to say "I told you so" but I did say that the only way the AEP would shoot 50m was if it had a monster hop-up. And it has. Link to post Share on other sites
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