Steve Pearson Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Took delivery of my STTi M4 933 Carbine earlier this morning and have spent the better part of all morning test firing it inside my little warehouse. At a glance: At first appearance it looks very smart. Everything all lined up and correct. No unslightly gaps between the recievers ect. Handling: There is absolutely no creaking or wobbling whatsoever, especially the barrel area. Everything is as solid as a rock. I even tried to use a bit of pressure to see if the barrel flexed either way and it wouldn't budge one bit. Obviously if I'd put too much pressure on it, it would have snapped off, but so would any other airsoft gun. On further inspection it looks as though there is some kind of steel rod going right through the upper reciever and down the full length of the barrel to prevent any barrel movement. All the other little bits such as fire selector, sights ect are all very snugley fitted into place and make a nice healthy "click" sound when they are moved into their respective positions. The stock is nice and smooth and fits nicely into it's various positions. The STTi came with a standard 300 round hi-cap magazine which fitted into the magazine housing perfectly. I did have to use a little bit of pressure to get it to fit but I'm assuming that is down to it being fresh out of the box, but I'm confident that will fix itself over time as it gets a chance to bed in. Even the extra 450 round hi-cap I got (according to the bottom of the mag it is a G&G mag) also fitted nicely, but again I had to use a bit of pressure to get it to stay in. Again this will no doubt fix itself over time. In fact the only annoying sound I heard from the STTi was coming from the forward sling hook thingy-me-bob and the lever to move the stock into it's various positions. Battery changing: I found the battery changing to be quite easy. Push the ring thing down, slip the lower section of the handguard off and plonk the battery in/out. Simple. Test Firing: The ever important firing bit. I fired a total of 50 BB's before the battery died (the battery was also fresh from the box and I couldn't wait to charge it first) as a preliminary FPS test. The recorded FPS stats are as follows: 1st BB: 321 fps 2nd BB: error 3rd BB: error 4th BB: error 5th BB: error 6th BB: error 7th BB: error 8th BB: error 9th BB: error 10th BB: 386 fps 11th BB: error 12th BB: error 13th BB: error 14th BB: 378 fps 15th BB: 378 fps 16th BB: error 17th BB: error 18th BB: error 19th BB: error 20th BB: error 21st BB: error 22nd BB: 315 fps 23rd BB: 279.90 fps 24th BB: 381 fps 25th BB: 318 fps 26th BB: 383 fps 27th BB: 315 fps 28th BB: 379 fps 29th BB: 389 fps 30th BB: 370 fps 31st BB: 379 fps 32nd BB: 381 fps 33rd BB: error 34th BB: error 35th BB: error 36th BB: 316 fps 37th BB: error 38th BB: error 39th BB: 386 fps 40th BB: error 41st BB: error 42nd BB: error 43rd BB: 390 fps 44th BB: error 45th BB: error 46th BB: 323 fps 47th BB: 323 fps 48th BB: 325 fps 49th BB: 323 fps 50th BB: error So, 21 BB's gave readings and 29 BB's failed to register on my chrono (one of those £40 ones from Wolf Armouries). The FPS stats are somewhat eratic and it is in no way an accurate recording of the STTi's true FPS output as there will be factors that will undoubtly alter the above readings such as the internal parts bedding in over time that will probably result in the FPS dropping (by how much I have no idea). I still have a few more FPS test to do once the battery is fully charged. Once I've fired a couple of thousand BB's through it, it should then start to give a more consistant FPS reading. So far so good. Part 2 of my little review to follow in a few days including rate of fire/durability during a skirmish ect. Steve. Forgot to mention, the carry handle can be removed without fuss allowing for other scopes ect to be fitted and the rear sights work fine. Edit: Looks like foo has submitted a review at the same time as me. Link to post Share on other sites
ƒoo Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 You stole my bloody thunder! Ive just done a review on the STTi m4! Grrr! Link to post Share on other sites
m4ris_spec Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 post some pics please Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 ƒoo Posted Today, 02:01 PM You stole my bloody thunder! Ive just done a review on the STTi m4! Grrr! Sorry, I honestly didn't know you were writing one at the same time as me. It's taken me all morning to get logged on the Arnies. m4ris_spec Posted Today, 02:02 PM post some pics please It won't be until later on that I can pop some pictures up, but they will be on, hopefully. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy_Harry Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 nowt wrong with more than one review- quality control is always going to be a question on people's minds when they think about buying a Stti (they've not the best reputation), so the more people out there letting us know how good, bad or indifferent these are, the better! Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Whats up with your chrono man? Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Post is not letting me add any attachments such as pictures. However, if some kind soul were willing to do it for me I can send that kind soul an email with all the pictures with descriptions........ Steve. Link to post Share on other sites
mario114 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Thats a huge range in readins, some going to high it would make the gun illigal in the uk, though it's more likaly your chrono, as 100fps is to much varying to think I though my m15 was all over the palce doing 315-327. I'm quite intrested by one of these, just a few questions? Do tm mags fit? Are the gears metal (I read that they were plastic on the first models)? Does it have a metal gear box, tm compatibil? Whats the hop-up like in function and build quality? Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Whats up with your chrono man? Do you mean with the inconsistant FPS readings? I've no idea. I'll be able to take more readings over the weekend, see if there is any difference. If they persist in being over 300 fps then the STTi M4 933 Carbine is no good for urban (or at least LFU with a 300 fps max limit) but still great for woodland. Time will tell. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites
UrPeaceKeeper Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Do you mean with the inconsistant FPS readings? I've no idea. I'll be able to take more readings over the weekend, see if there is any difference. If they persist in being over 300 fps then the STTi M4 933 Carbine is no good for urban (or at least LFU with a 300 fps max limit) but still great for woodland. Time will tell. Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm beyond intreaged by this. Does this also happen to be the SRC? I saw in another thread someone reputable said it was the same company, if thats the case then it continues to keep me split 50 50 on an SRC as a project gun or an M15A4 as a pre upgraded *generic Americanski assault rifle* Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 SRC/STTI/KJW are all the same company as such mate Link to post Share on other sites
UrPeaceKeeper Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 SRC/STTI/KJW are all the same company as such mate <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow nice! thank you for clearing that up for me. Well then it appears i'm still a 50 50 split on which to do. I need experience in the Gearbox but I dont have alot of time to do it... I'm leaning towards the SRC (despite the 50 50 split) for this reason! Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 the CA Armalites are pretty un beatable but these look very good for the price ! a CA armalite would only be another £50 over here though so maybe worth it. one of our guys just bought one of the stti m933s so we shall see how it performs tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites
teetee Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 If the FPS varies like that then it's terrible allround. How much accuracy are you going to get when your muzzle velocity varies by ~20%?! Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Since I got the chrono, it has also given out inconsistant FPS readings with other peoples ICS's, CA's, TM's.............. It could be the STTi or it could be the chrono. I'll hopefully be able to get more accurate and consistant readings on sunday, providing another bod has a chrono. Until then I suppose it's too early to speculate. Link to post Share on other sites
teetee Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 I have the same chrono, and find it's very accurate (to within 10fps as long as you set it up half-right). Are you using the barrel mount attatchment? If so simply use an elastic to attatch it to the muzzle and set it so that the BB flies as horizontal as possible. Stabilize the gun and test. If that doesnt work, then I guess the chrono is just faulty. Link to post Share on other sites
LauBen Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Hi Steve, So have you been able to get any pic yet? Also how did the gun do in battle? Would you say it was worth the cash, and would it make a good first AEG? Sorry, I honestly didn't know you were writing one at the same time as me. It's taken me all morning to get logged on the Arnies. It won't be until later on that I can pop some pictures up, but they will be on, hopefully. Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
Chiken Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Yea, excellent review so far but some input on the performance would be great, hows the accuracy/range/rate of fire? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Just got in from a skirmish so I'll pop some more info later on, once I've sorted out sunday dinner for everyone. It's my turn this sunday. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pearson Posted May 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 I've stuck a full review in the Readers Review section here - http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=59913 Steve. Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 You know you can just ask a mod to move this one. But that works too. Link to post Share on other sites
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