Robot 2000 Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Erm, no, because they fire SHOT and not bullets. Anyway, I maintain that anyone with any sense would stop wasting money on expensive weapons development programs and buy AK 10x's. Link to post Share on other sites
guinnessman Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Is the wonderful 10mm every likely to see military service? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Didn't the FBI try a 10mm Smith & Wesson cartridge? IIRC their Hostage Rescue Team uses a variant of the MP5 chambered for this round, but when they tried using it in a sidearm (again a Smith & Wesson design, the 1006 or something?) it went a bit pear-shaped. Think it was brought on after that shootout in the eighties between two ex-army bank robbers and half-a-dozen FBI agents in which both robbers and two agents were killed and the remaining agents were all wounded. Anyhoo, that's the only 10mm round I can think of off the top of my head and sitting at my work PC... dunno of a 10mm rifle round.... Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 western govts will kit out their professional standing armies with what they perceive is the best available technology (or best balance of tech versus cost) on basis of the sort of wars/confluicst/security duties that those standing armies are likely to have to participate in. they wont buy AKs I suspect because all govts know that if they're ever stuck in a situation where the war they end up fighting is one where they actually need an assault rifle to equip a mass mobilized conscript army in as short an amount of time as possible ... they can go ahead and rattle off AK based designs by the bucketload at pretty short notice anyway AK-47... when you absolutely have got to arm every motherf---er in the country. Accept no substitutes Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Erm, no, because they fire SHOT and not bullets. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Er... that would depend on the load. A shotgun with a rifled bore and firing a sabot is basically a very large caliber rifle.... Link to post Share on other sites
DEAGLESOFT Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Why isn't Barrett an option? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because they specialize in large caliber semi auto / bolt action sniper rifles. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Er... that would depend on the load. A shotgun with a rifled bore and firing a sabot is basically a very large caliber rifle.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shot has a 1:1 l/w ratio. Technically, if a shotgun is loaded with a single, rifle, slug it becomes a rifle. Thats why elephant guns are termed guns, not shotguns...because they can be rifled or smoothbore. It all depends on the technical definition of a rifle round. By the definition I know, P90 is one. Actually, the definition I have listed for a pistol is a firearm that can be concealed inside one's clothing. A fuzzy definition that includes, technically, the MP7, P90 and MP5K. Depends on the clothing I guess. I agree to disagree on the P90 - I still reckon its a rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Then I agree to disagree. And reckon that you have a funny definition of a rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
M0ldyM!LK Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Then I agree to disagree. And reckon that you have a funny definition of a rifle. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He does, as weapon types are usually determined by the type of round they fire + operating sytem Link to post Share on other sites
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