Spacemonkey Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Well apart from HK who makes the best G36K? At the mo' I'm quite taken by the STAR offering and if their SA80 is anything to go by, it should be good... Also what is the rough fps out of the box of the STAR and others?? Does the STAR (or whatever might be better) need a tightbore barrel? Are custom batteries available to fit the gun to provide a bit more 'mah' whilst still staying 8.4v?? Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Classic Army am best manufacturer... nuf said The star one is NOTHING like the sa80, trust me, its like a tm outside, (i have handled that and a ca and a tm btw) the ca is so solid, no creak, heavy, polymer yes, the real 36 isnt metal... the ca is the most real, and cheaper than the star i think? (dare quote me..) Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 TM is £175, Star is £185, CA is 220 CA am bestest but if you want to go with one of the cheaper options then the TM is going to be a better bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Muchas gracias and all that jazz.. Whats the CA like as standard and what would need doing for accuracy/reliability? Never had a CA yet, but have heard good things about the newer AR15 clones... Cheers Cobalt. Money is no object so no worries there... Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Oh wait you meant the K. Still the CA is better. And TM don't produce a K variant. Link to post Share on other sites
psg1sniperdude Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 CA definitely. EDIT: Nevermind. Cobalt, I thought the same as you Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Yep! Gotta be the Kurtz! Thanks for the replies, and to those who just say 'do a search', I have. For days... and all I get is pages of threads with 100pages on, none of which are specific to the G36K. That's K. Not C nor the rifle, but K. Not comparing two brands, but all brands. And that is why I asked the specific question and these kind chaps/chapesses took the time to reply instead of just giving negative rep to someone who has only made 18 posts. Nothing like welcoming a newcomer eh? Link to post Share on other sites
Chrome Beretta Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Just a word of advice, i held a CA, and it rocks your socks off like no other. STAR's version is really suck i've heard. Link to post Share on other sites
Xaccers Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Muchas gracias and all that jazz.. Whats the CA like as standard and what would need doing for accuracy/reliability? Never had a CA yet, but have heard good things about the newer AR15 clones... Cheers Cobalt. Money is no object so no worries there... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I've been running my CA G36 on 11.1v now for nearly a year with no mechanical failures, probably put around a million BB's through it, so that should give you an idea. However, saying that, before I started using a high voltage li-pol battery, I did have to replace a defective bushing, but I've not heard of any one else having a similar problem. From experience, checking the shimming job on any V3 gearbox is a good idea, especially if you find your gun "jams" when your battery goes low (not just CA V3 gearboxes, seen it with ICS ones too). Link to post Share on other sites
MadCat360 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I've never shot or played with the CA36, but I held a 'K and it's the most solid gun I've seen. It's also real fiberglass, not plastic. Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 not quite the same discussion, but its interesting how the two topics turn out. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=85266 still CA. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I pondered the very same question a few months ago - and ended up buying a CA36K. So far, I've been very happy with it. No complaints at all - and lots of compatable after-market accessories. However, this past week-end I skirmished with a chap who's owned both - and he swears by the STAR.... I don't know - toss a coin. Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Very interesting, one and all. I'm being swayed towards the CA job, though I'll check out the star while I'm there out of curiosity.... Link to post Share on other sites
The Hammer Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Its gotta be CA, no contest really. Link to post Share on other sites
Zuka Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 The K in G36K stands for Kommando, not Kurz Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I beg to differ, the K does stand for Kurz (short) and the C in G36c was going to stand for 'Commando', but as Colt held the copyright on that, they decided on 'Compact' instead. Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I just got a CA G36K. All I can say is the STAR version is a joke in comparison. The STAR has the useful rail over the scope but that is the only advatage it has. The CA shoots better, and last longer. When I test fired them both the STAR jammed. The only negative on the CA is it needs good quality batteries. My 8.4v 1200mAh Powerizer brand ones last around 900 round before it dies. A Intellect brand battery is a must. Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 900 rounds?? Bloody heck... can you fit a custom battery in there that does last a bit longer? 8.4v that is... I'm not spray and pray by any means, but a nice wide safety margin sure would be nice.. Link to post Share on other sites
HKG36 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 CA36K Pros Metal barrel assembly Useable scope Fire selections are engraved Better material used Cons Plastic flexes plastic cocking handle wrong type of buttpad,its rounded not sharp edged flash hider is to long as well as outer barrel Star G36K Pros Plastic is stronger Has rail on top to add additional optics correct buttpad metal cocking handle includeds mid cap correct flashhider and outerbarrel Cons plastic barrel assembly white fire selection is painted ugly looking handguard sucky scope Link to post Share on other sites
mattyb107 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think if you'll be upgrading the power and using heavier bb's, then the Star scope is better than the CA scope. Especially since you can put another optic of your choice on top for working up close. I'm running ca36 (full size) with pdi170% & tightbore with .28g bb's and I absolutely love the 3.5x scope. The eye-relief sucks as everyone will tell you, but the real (related) drawback is that the objective is so small that it doesn't let in enough light; so if it's hard to see into dark areas (i.e. into the woods at dusk) with the naked eye, the scope doesn't help at all. I'd recommend CA and the get whatever different parts from Star or TM that your heart desires, and maybe get yourself a new hop up rubber. The stock one works alright, I was able to hit a 3 in or so diameter pole on my buddy's chain link fence around 3/4 or 3/5 times at 60-70 feet on a day with a bit of wind, but you'll be glad you replaced it if you want the gun to perform at longer range (where the scope comes in handy and where the hop starts to become the dominant effect on the bb's trajectory). When I went to the 3.5x scope, I couldn't stand to use the stock hop rubber anymore. The consistency was very poor at the sort of ranges that the additional magnification helps with (i.e. you want the bb's to strike near the crosshair, as opposed to simply within your field of vision through the scope). Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 900 rounds?? Bloody heck... can you fit a custom battery in there that does last a bit longer? 8.4v that is... I'm not spray and pray by any means, but a nice wide safety margin sure would be nice.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, there are more ways to fit a larger battery, like buying a full stock or a bigger foregrip, or since you can stick some mags together, stick on another mag and you can put some custom battery in there if you remove its guts. its interesting, coz when I upgraded my K, I put a systema m120 in it and people told me my GP 9.6 1100 will not be enough and the motor wont even turn. well, it did. :] still thats too small. Ill try to fit in something like this, and see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites
ianhaz Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Is the star plastic really stronger? I have a CA36K and it doesnt flex in the slightest, and i could use it to beat whales to death the plastic is that strong...maybe star used super-plastic like the stuff their gearboxes are made of Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ok, the CA is still in the lead, but is there any way of fitting the red dot, or any other red dot above the scope? If not, I assume the top handle etc off a STAR or CAG36 would fit?? Link to post Share on other sites
DazJW Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I also would like to know if I can get a rail or something on top of the CA36k carry handle. And if not, would a G36c (TM or otherwise) scope rail fit? Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Spacemonkey: check this out, right at the top. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...c=17971&st=1740 DazJW: I believe all G36 parts are interchangeable. (except the BE one) I have a CA C foregrip from my friend and willing to do the same as you, swap them if needed. I only need a C-type rail-handle, or will buy a BE G36K and put the CA C foregrip n rail-handle on that. Link to post Share on other sites
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