littlesniper101 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Handguard rails: This handguard ras rail system is fully licensed by Daniel Defense. We are using the same manufacturing process with the Aircraft grade Aluminum handguard rail. With 1:1 dimension and affordable price, we guaranteed you don't want to buy the China copies again. Note: Our rail doesn't have holes for gas tube. Can't fit on real rifles. Features: FOR AIRSOFT USE ONLY Licensed by Daniel Defense Inc. 100% CNC made free float picatinny handguard High strength aircaft grade aluminium construction Barrel nut and mounting bolts included Barrel nut wrench is requried for installation “Bolt up” system allows rock-solid continuus upper rail platform DESIGNED IN U.S.A. BY J.C. MEMBER OF MADBULL DESIGNERS GROUP Source- http://www.airsoftreview.net/viewtopic.php?p=546#546 Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Wonder if they'll do a FDE version? Link to post Share on other sites
Ascendance610 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Anyone know if these will be threaded to RS spec like the rest of Madbull's RIS? G&P Metal bodies wouldn't work with this if thats the case, but would King Arms kits work? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Barrel nut wrench is requried for installation If the barrel nuts on the replicas are anything like the RS DD barrel nuts, I don't think regular barrel nut wrenches will work with it. I know on my own RS DD lite rails I had to use a strap wrench until I got a DD wrench. I wonder if this will have the "Made in Taiwan" printed on it like on the Noveske Rails. Regardless, the Madbull/SocomGear Noveske Rail is probably one of the nicest quality Airsoft Replica Rails I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 If the barrel nuts on the replicas are anything like the RS DD barrel nuts, I don't think regular barrel nut wrenches will work with it. I know on my own RS DD lite rails I had to use a strap wrench until I got a DD wrench. I wonder if this will have the "Made in Taiwan" printed on it like on the Noveske Rails. Regardless, the Madbull/SocomGear Noveske Rail is probably one of the nicest quality Airsoft Replica Rails I've ever seen. Pretty sure its going to have made in Taiwan on the rail but meh, its so small it hardly matters even to me, a purist that loves his trademarks. I currently have a G&P RIS II rail on my m4 build that im skirmishing with and im debating replacing it with one of these SG units. I really shouldnt considering they're basically the same thing but i like supporting madbull and i like the quality of their work. If they release these in FDE im all over it. The only issue that ive got is that they probably wont be compatible with G&P uppers. Shucks! Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Note: Our rail doesn't have holes for gas tube. Can't fit on real rifles. Suck balls.. What is the purpose on having sex rail and then no gastube.. Guess one of the reason why I buy the real thing. also to have the re-sell value higher. any price yet? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Suck balls.. What is the purpose on having sex rail and then no gastube.. Guess one of the reason why I buy the real thing. also to have the re-sell value higher. I thought that these can use gas tubes, except they need to be cut down a bit as the hole isn't drilled all the way through. Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 We are using the same manufacturing process with the Aircraft grade Aluminum handguard rail. so are these original DD rails just branded "made in taiwan" and without the gastube hole ... ? Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 so are these original DD rails just branded "made in taiwan" and without the gastube hole ... ? Might just be done like the magpul products. sister company that make them using the same process but just lower quality metal/plastic And the gastube opening not being there.. Is probably so AR users don`t start buying clones instead of the real product since they probably could take the use. Link to post Share on other sites
skattergunn Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Suck balls.. What is the purpose on having sex rail and then no gastube.. Guess one of the reason why I buy the real thing. also to have the re-sell value higher. any price yet? I would wait and see the finished product. The Noveske rail was listed as not being able to fit a gas tube as well. But when I got mine(from a U.S. distributor)I had no problems with fitting the gas tube. Link to post Share on other sites
yehaw Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 are they realy made out of other materials? or are they genuine DD rails just marked "made in asia" and without gastube hole so that they aren't bought for RS use? Link to post Share on other sites
skattergunn Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Its most definitly not. Thats why its a replica. It cant be genuine if its made by another company. Genuine Toyota parts arent made by Ford. Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 The lack of a gas tube hole is to prevent this from cannabilizing sales of actual DD units. This is most certainly not a DD product. It's great and all that some airsoft manufacturers are trying to stop just blatantly copying US manufacturers, but there is no way companies will agree to allow you to make copies without compromise. No trades, no gas tube hole means this is not as attractive to the sim airsofter as those $70ish ACM DD products that look spot on. Many could care less that this is an "officially licensed product." Keep in mind when you actually buy a rail unit from an American company, especially guys like DD, you're not just buying the rail, but also customer service and a pretty damn good warranty, which honestly is close to nonexistent with anything related to airsoft. Link to post Share on other sites
jamynou Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 A new DD replica for airsoft? Cool I was looking for a monolithic platform solution for my custom, but since I was using a DYTAC Vltor MUR, some handguard needed modifications like the troy. Now I see there's two kind of DD RIS, the lite rail by Madbull, fully licensed, and the acm one, MK18 RIS 2 replica. The Lite rail looks better IMO but there is cons about that handguard: -no gas tube but this issue can be fixed -"for airsoft only" markings -Some weird looking machining : (I hope it's only a first batch problem or something like that) And the last issue, wich is not a real problem, you can't seperate the rail into upper and lower (the real one cannot either) but it could be easier for users like me who uses batteries in the handguard. (mk18ris2 can) But man, this is one hell of a rail, I will surely get one, as they say the price is about the same as the ACM ones. Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 ...,and the acm one,MK18 RIS 2 replica. I recently bought one of these. I'll do a quick write up of it when it arrives. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
jamynou Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thanks, Did you bought the "old" version? (Ebaybanned says there is several versions of that Rail) Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I bought this one: "DD style MK18 RIS 2 Dark Earth" -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
bluntshooter Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 that blemish is an injection molding mark i thinks. i have yet to handle the socom gear dd rail but it certainly doesnt look cnc'd to me - - - just my 2 cents edit: spelling some companies can claim an item is cnc even though it's moulded if the product is cast/extruded fist then the holes cnced into the product, that way they save on material cost and manufacture time Link to post Share on other sites
bluntshooter Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 oh, and it's also present on the real thing (if a mod could merge this with my previous post plz? i edited twice alredi : ) Link to post Share on other sites
Beckman Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 The "blemish" appears to be a tack weld used to hold the flange to the RAS. Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 The "blemish" appears to be a tack weld used to hold the flange to the RAS. You can see the same thing on replica Knights Armament free-float RAS systems. Link to post Share on other sites
Whan Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yay, it looks like airsofters can now get almost the full lineup of DD rails. Omega, RIS II, and Lite rails. Now we're only missing the various sizes... Link to post Share on other sites
jamynou Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hi, I received MK18RIS 2, good overall quality & finish, but the barrel nut doesn't fit my g&p upper Link to post Share on other sites
Skippy Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Gday mate, Sorry to hear it doesnt fit your G&P upper, does this mean it will fit a TM or CA style upper (I know they have a different thread) Cheers TC Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 CA has a different thread, TM and G&P share a thread. Try using a wire brush to clean the inside threading and the barrel nut threading on the G&P - should fit now. Link to post Share on other sites
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