Onechance Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Hello I'm considering buying a KJ M9 the new one with the adjustable hop up, i have a few questions i would like answered. 1.Perfomance wise, any good? 2.Quality of the build? 3. Do KJ M9 fit those fancy SERPA or other types hostlers of similar design I already have a HFC m190 and there is only so much of those trademarks and rail i can take. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Zmarre Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Your KJW will be worse than your HFC... Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Your KJW will be worse than your HFC... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Granted, but these i'm talking about the new KJ, with adjustable hop-up. And i believe some members of this forum are guilty of prejudice against them simply because the earlier models were poor Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Damnit, can't find the post but I know someone said even with the adjustable hop, the range was lacking. Combine that with KJW's legendary (for all the wrong reasons) build quality and QC... I wouldn't buy one. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 ONe of my mates has one of the new adjustable hop-up ones. It's still utter craptacularasmically shiteful. Stay away. Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Well, range is good on the new KJ with adjustable hop. It's just a standard hop as found on TM hicapa, glock, sig... I would prefer a KJ over a HFC anyday. No rail, no funky slide, adusjtable hop. Both are the same quality wise, made with the same pot metal. And darklite, you seem to be in love with m190. Can you develop why the KJ is *suitcasey* ? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Uh, the pictures of the hop I've seen on a KJW M9 showed it being adjusted with an allen key, so nothing like the guns you list. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Aye, the new KJs have adjustable hop and i've been badgering sledge about them for a while now. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...opic=110733&hl= Link to post Share on other sites
pokethepope Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I remember when i was looking to buy one second hand, i asked the seller about the hop and he said it was a WA stlyle which is adjusted with an allen key, as Sledge said. I then researched it further and a couple of people said it was a poor hop design with poor range and accuracy. Mathub, if i remember your sale add for your KJW M9 correctly, it was a BoomArms custom was it not? BA may have put in a new TM style hop as part of the 'custom', which may be a reason for yours having had good range? (all conjecture mind). Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Well, I've had a new kj m9. The adjustement in made by an allen key you're right, but the system is the same as a marui adjustable hop. Example for you, hop adjustement is different between a TM DE and a TM Hicapa. But the system is the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 So you've dissasembled both to see? Photos, please. Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Mathub, if i remember your sale add for your KJW M9 correctly, it was a BoomArms custom was it not? BA may have put in a new TM style hop as part of the 'custom', which may be a reason for yours having had good range? (all conjecture mind). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You think boomarms will make a new hop design ?? No, they called it boomarms custom because they put some uprated springs in it. Other than that, it's a bog standard KJ gun. Have you guys ever seen the new KJ paraordnance with adjustable hop ? It's just "nearly" a TM hicapa hop unit. Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Alright the KJ's not up to standard. Since the KJ and HFC are the same, would there be any problems in me taking all the internals out of my HFC and putting them in a KJ slide and frame? Best of both worlds. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
SpoonMan Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I have a KJW m9, and it's great. The range is good at up to about 100ft with the hop adjusted right. Its mostly metal in construction (minus the sides of the grip) so it's got a decent weight behind it. As far as power goes, I love it, but I'm running Propane in mine. I've had it for almost a year now, and the only problem I've had is a leaky mag, which was easily fixed. The hop can be a little tricky to adjust, but it's really not that bad. I can try to get pics of the insides if anybody really wants them. Spoon Man Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Best of both worlds, apart from having badly made externals? Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 So you've dissasembled both to see? Photos, please. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> None of my gbbs weren't dissasembled. Can't provide pics. Gun sold few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I really would love to see the KJW adjustable hop unit - wouldn't mind one in my m190 if its any good. The adjustement in made by an allen key you're right, but the system is the same as a marui adjustable hop. The TM M9 has a fixed hop though mate. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 None of my gbbs weren't dissasembled. Can't provide pics. Gun sold few weeks ago. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, the gun impressed you that much. I see. Link to post Share on other sites
Onechance Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Best of both worlds, apart from having badly made externals? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can't be that bad, i'm sure if its full metal its fine. And i don't want to hear Darklite's horror story on KJ's "face-breaking slides". Does anybody know if the internals swap would work? Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I had problems mixing and matching parts between a KJW and TM M9. HFC is an exact clone, KJW isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
Mathub Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 It's just a standard hop as found on TM hicapa, glock, sig... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> but the system is the same as a marui adjustable hop. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The TM M9 has a fixed hop though mate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Anyway, I've a brocken m190 at home, the "metal" piece that hold the piston head is brocken around the safety. Sledge I have to disagree with you, HFC internals won't fit directly in a zeke kit meant for a TM M9. I've heard the HFC is oversized. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Oh, that seals it then. Aftermarket metal kits are always EXACTLY the right size. Link to post Share on other sites
Lon Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Face breaking slides eh... I'd better watch out.. I've put a few hundred rounds through my new KJ M9, and I'm liking it. Do I think it's better than the HFC? Well for one, I do think the externals are a bit better. It has a heavy slide and frame that seem to be well made. Paint doesn't chip as easy. Performance... I'd say is "on par" with the HFC, adjustable hop is a plus. Overall I think it's a pretty decent M9 that shouldn't be overlooked. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Bottom line: if you want to buy a KJW M9, go for it. But don't expect sympathy or help when it craps out on you. A KJW gun is always the worst option for any model I can think of. Link to post Share on other sites
Senor Bear Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 My mate bought a KJ m9 a few weeks back. He said he couldn't get the hop to turn up, this is because the manual tells you to turn the key the wrong way. He only realized that my prediction of the manual being wrong was correct was when I went "ok I bet it will work now it is turned the other way". Lo and behold that worked. However it is such a silly design having to carry the smallest ever allen key around just to adjust the hop. Even after the hop had been set for range, the accuracy was god awful. The finish I thought was also very poor. Now he tells me the hop has gone off again, however this could be due to wearing in. I'm thinking it is more due to KJ being a bit cack. Link to post Share on other sites
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