thartwig Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Found it on airsoftnews.eu not really sure how new it is, but there was nothing posted about it on here. I assume the SVD is the same one that popped up at Evike right before April fools day. Will be interesting to see if they keep making more off beat stuff and dont do any armalites. Their website: http://www.smartteamhk.com/ Looked a little more around their site and found these too; M3 (grease gun), KAC LMG http://smartteamhk.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17&products_id=321 http://smartteamhk.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17&products_id=322 Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Just looks like another place rebranding to make it seem like they do thier own thing Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Good to see a cloner cloning different stuff Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Just looks like another place rebranding to make it seem like they do thier own thing thats certainly what it looks like but why would ARES let someone rebrand their T21 and put a polycarb gearbox in it? Also if thats a pic of their Greasegun (as in the finished product) then its not a rebrand of the G&G as the M3a1 doesnt have the charging handle seen on the left side. Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 This looks like an Ares rebrander to me. Whats interesting is, the blurb on the Aw338 about ASG, they spell ActionSportGames wrong. Twice. I wonder if theres a reason for that? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 just local wholesaler in Hong Kong, not any factory or brand. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 That would explain why they list other brands in their webpage Thanks Frontiers Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted April 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 just local wholesaler in Hong Kong, not any factory or brand. You would be right except that they claim to be producing the PPSH, T21, and SVD. What I got from the Airsoftnews article is that they are producing their own AEGs. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Chinese claims should be taken with a grain (or two) of salt We will see when these are released Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 You would be right except that they claim to be producing the PPSH, T21, and SVD. What I got from the Airsoftnews article is that they are producing their own AEGs. do you know where the S & T Armament comes from Smart & Team Armament ...not very smart name, anyways i know where they are and last time i checked they sold ARES and others totally wholesaler. Like before here people where 100% sure of manufacturer called AEG (Asia Electric Gun) its totally rebrander as well shop named Armed Forces created brand, but hey i said that long before aswell and people didnt trust so believe what you will. thats my 5 cents on this deal. Link to post Share on other sites
Kakarothus_PL Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Agreed that they seem to be a rebrander, but did anyone notice: http://smartteamhk.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=109_3&products_id=40 is it the mythical A&K PTW clone? There's also the TW-5 clone... Anyone knows more about this? Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 It has rebrand written all over it. Ironic isn't it? Ares, who, socalled, "cut down" Star as their middle man, is now being rebranded. Why would they want to rebrand their own economic line, that hasn't even hit major shops yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Caustic Echo Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 thats certainly what it looks like but why would ARES let someone rebrand their T21 and put a polycarb gearbox in it? that would be because the current ARES gearbox are worthless. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 that would be because the current ARES gearbox are worthless. Strange, my Ares gearboxes are still running strong. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Strange, my Ares gearboxes are still running strong. you're one lucky man, I'd recommend the lottery. I've seen 4 out of 5 brand new ARES guns fail outo f the box amongst players I know. They stopped buying them after that. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Not that sure, but I know quite a few who have a Tavor, and the never have any really total loss issues with them. Most issues I know of is the crappy hop up rubber. Is it a case of once a bad name, always a bad name? Pure misfortune? Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Its' a case of circumstance, STAR never really designed the best guns and gearboxes, but did ones that other people hadn't, ARES was the OEM for star, Star provided QC and a hefty profit margin. So you have the same guns built more cheaply with less QC, resulting in a high failure rate. Some people get lucky and their guns are fine, most don't. Just the way of life, you want it cheaper, then you get less. As for the topic, S&T Armament are jsut taking ARES guns and putting a Polycarb gearbox in? Or are ARES shipping with Polycarb gearboxes now? Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I think they are just rebranded 'sportline' versions of the ARES range. Check the Ares website for more info. Some get lucky? Or do they intentionally ship bad guns to the UK? J/K Link to post Share on other sites
bulmedius Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=29381 that just came out and its 100 USD cheaper than the AREs.. either that or im blind Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=29381 that just came out and its 100 USD cheaper than the AREs.. either that or im blind it really looks like Ares though Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 So this new brand or rebander o OEM or whatever, I dont care, but its being discussed here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=195574 , is now offering "their" first AEG: a PPSh that looks exactly like the one made by ARES (electric blowback included) but costs 182$ less = 203$. http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=29381 On their website they announce other STAR/ARES like products: http://www.smartteamhk.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I am suprised that it cost almost $200 less. Sportline? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Well, if it costs 200$ less than the ares and it is the same OEM, I personally welcome it now lets wait for reviews and see if it is internally the same Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 It'd be so sweet if we could get the Kac LMG for the price of an A&K M249!!! Link to post Share on other sites
SniperNinja Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I found the TAR-21 for a great price! $166! With free shipping! Here it is http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/webshopashura/aeg45h.html&ei=0QfPTZifNsPt0gH40u2SDg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFEQ7gEwBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ds%2526t%2Bppsh%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7SKPT_en%26prmd%3Divns Link to post Share on other sites
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