Baddbaz Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 G&g have announced at shot show a new type of modular split aeg gearbox . No screws , shims and totally interchangeable motors , piston etc . Also a good few new guns in their way as well , looks very promising .... Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Saw some pics, looks like an ICS like design with a "box-like" trigger group. Definetly improving over the original design, but with the Airsoft Systems M4 around the corrner, I cant see this delivering anything worth the fuss Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 No screws? wtf? Hows that gonna work? PINS? Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Saw some pics, looks like an ICS like design with a "box-like" trigger group. Definetly improving over the original design, but with the Airsoft Systems M4 around the corrner, I cant see this delivering anything worth the fussAffordability and g&g quality and after sales support is a big plus . Airsoft systems ASCu have had lots of failures of mosfets and fire wires . I hope their m4 fares better .. Instant Rof / motor changes , trigger changes , piston changes . No shims or screws . What is not to like ? Link to post Share on other sites
richwuk Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Here's a take down video of a G&G M4 with the gearbox, looks interesting I wonder the number of proprietary parts. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Well, G&G is not what I call cheap, here in spain, the price of a G&G Sportline is along the lines of the ICS sportlines, but something tells me this gearbox wont be featuring in the cheap section of G&G, more like in a new premium line. Cant speak about after sales support as I dont own any of their products, but I think that support comes more from the shops selling it in UK or Spain, I should get the same support for a Dboys M4 if bought directly from a shop locally. I have heard the ASCU is not what people call reliable, but if the prototype has been tested like it was stated in the IWA 2012 video, it is definetly in my "want" list and will avidly search for reviews after it is released Will watch the video later, working atm EDIT: After a quick and sneaky watch(no sound), upper gearbox looks similar to the AS-AR... @_@ Link to post Share on other sites
Wild_XIII Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 On a note about G&G after sales, they are excellent! I went to G&G directly after my Scar's fire selector came off. They were very friendly and also quite quick at responding to emails, they even sent me a couple of free patches! I rate them very highly as a company. The gearbox design looks interesting, I'll be keeping an eye on this! Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 On a note about G&G after sales, they are excellent! I went to G&G directly after my Scar's fire selector came off. They were very friendly and also quite quick at responding to emails, they even sent me a couple of free patches! I rate them very highly as a company. The gearbox design looks interesting, I'll be keeping an eye on this! let me tell you, you are very lucky! I tried to buy a couple of parts from them and the politely asked me to tell my closest distributor and *fruitcage off Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted March 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I have brought parts of them and have never had an issue be it through my main agent . Pro Airsoft supplies or directly . Are one of the best for sales backup and tech or parts . Also have 2 year warrantys on their top tech guns .. 10 out of 10 . Link to post Share on other sites
Wild_XIII Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 let me tell you, you are very lucky! I tried to buy a couple of parts from them and the politely asked me to tell my closest distributor and *fruitcage off Ouch man! That's surprising, I've heard (and experienced) nothing but good things about them. Did you run over the companies dog or something? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I think they found out somehow im an ICS fanboy... Anyway, GENTS!, on topic: After my second breakfast, while watching the video on the phone (the force bless smartphones) I saw there is a QD spring in there and there are several improvements over the tipical ICS split gearbox, which is really good, even more, the shape of the gun seems to be more like a regular AEG than the ICS or AS, many people will like that. On the not so good side, pistol grip seems to be propietary, not a big deal, but some people need to put a MOE grip in all their guns Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The other thing is will there ever be a version for anything other than the ubiquitous AR platform? Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 · Hidden by cazboab, March 11, 2013 - No reason given Hidden by cazboab, March 11, 2013 - No reason given I NEED TO *I use homophobic slurs and want to get banned*. Lol. Hate magpul. Id imagine that there would be a V3 as theyre making lots of new AKs Link to post
Wild_XIII Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 If they make a V3 version, I will be all over that! Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 A V3 AK would certainly be a good step, Im still looking for an AK without a paleolitical gearbox... =( Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I'd also be interested to see if this becomes the de facto TopTech gear box (replacing the Gen 2 line, Gen 3 anyone) or if this is an additional specification to the existing lines --- and then, what kind of price will be charged. All they are missing now is some kind of recoil engine, then they'd have covered all bases from Systema, through ASCU and on to TM. Very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 It doesnt look like there is a bolt lock function in the gun, just a split gearbox+microswitch+QDspring+probablycrappyblowback Pricewise I can see this being more expensive than the top of the line G&G AEGs due to the improvements putting it very close to the more than probable ASAR price increase. Bets? my money is in the 400/450€ range Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 G&G give direct customer support from Taiwan and always have I have quite a few rifles with ASCU and they are perfectly reliable but the older one did require some skill to install correctly Link to post Share on other sites
Tw1tch Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Interesting, might hold out on buying a new M4 for a while then, see if this begins to filter into their range and knock the prices down of what's already on offer (as well as newer gen stuff rolling out), because well the requirements are a short M4 that'll last (and well, probably replace the receiver for something with better trades anyway) and I like G&G's prices and the CM16 I own is still going strong. Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 It doesnt look like there is a bolt lock function in the gun, just a split gearbox+microswitch+QDspring+probablycrappyblowback Pricewise I can see this being more expensive than the top of the line G&G AEGs due to the improvements putting it very close to the more than probable ASAR price increase. Bets? my money is in the 400/450€ range The TopTech line already has working bolt catch, and one of the features on the new microchip 'thing' is for a TM-esque need to push the bolt release when reloading. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 didnt get that in the video, bolt release feature, i mean. the guy didnt disassemble the boltcatch. Where can we see a features list from this new system? Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Good point - hopefully they wouldn't introduce new features at the cost of previously available ones. I haven't seen a spec list soon; but I might do a BadBaz and visit the local airsoft shop as they had some people over at the show and may know more. Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 the chip is in the right place for a bolt button on it, ans im sure i saw one, it should only be a small lever on the body so it wont need removing. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 To my limited engeenering knowledge (this is 0) there should be a lever of certain length or something pushing the bolt lock tab, so it can be pushed into position to resume fireing while the one in the video looked fairly staticand not connected to the low reciever judging how it was not removed in order to remove the lower gearbox. Other option is that it stops shooting when no bbs are fed to the hop chamber and resumes it when a fresh mag is inserted and BBs move along the hop chamber chanel. This summer will be full of interesting news... Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 In any case, I'm pleased it isn't just another rehash of M4 externals - this could very easily become an out of the box competitor to more expensive airsoft systems. Link to post Share on other sites
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