PureSilver Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I agree. If I wanted a recoil AEG and wouldn't/couldn't pay for a Recoil Shock, I'd get an RM4 ERG, not a BOLT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I certainly wouldn't pay the full retail price of the BOLT if i had the choice. As far as other BOLT issues than the ones mentioned on internals...The faux moving bolt smashed itself off it's hook so that doesn't work on mine. I no longer have a faux bolt plate. To be honest, it was deforming itself against the ejection port anyway. On my brother's SR47 the plate is extremely deformed and I expect it'll probably snap off soon, too. Ejection port cover doesn't close properly either. Pretty minor stuff, but for near the same price an ERG could be bought or a second hand recoil shock rifle. If they dropped the BOLT down to £250 - £299 it'd be less of a pain to buy, but not worth it at £320++. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JedimiNjoke Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Any shop in Europe that has the RM4 for sale? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FTZ-WildeCard Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 LandWarrior here in the UK does. I'm sure a few other retailers do, but I can't remember. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The best UK price is currently at that place we love to hate, yep, you got it, Special Airsoft Supplies.....nah, just kidding, best price is at the other place we love to hate.....Fire-Support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mazor Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I echo others, if you want good recoil AEG, get either TM or PTS. Bolt is nice, but too expensive for what you get. It is not a bad gun at all, my one have good accuracy and range, recoil is nice and all. But for same price you can get something better, hopefully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelfallenangel Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Yea I guess my experience is alittle skewed. I got mine from a friend who was trying to start a airsoft business and he like one of the first guys to get them in the states. BOLT messed him up pretty bad though with botched orders (some people waiting months after paying) and in the end I got a "founders price" and because it took so long I didn't even get the original B4A1 but the later SOPMOD version. I paid quite a bit below retail for the B4A1 when I first paid and got the more expensive SOPMOD in the end anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JedimiNjoke Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 I found Bolt B4 on a polish site, over there the price is 360 euros and free shipping, so it`s cheaper than the KWA in the UK. The problem with the PTS is that it has all of that Magpul all over it, and my team is kinda reenacting a unit that doesn`t carry Magpul. And the problem with the Marui is that it`s too damn expensive. The prices overall in the UK are quite a bit higher so buying from an UK store is out of the question.For now I think I`ll just take a G&G gun, and wait for all eternity for damn RS to release their M4s one day in the next 3 years hopefully .Thanks for all of your help guys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Is it free shipping to the UK though? Doubt it will be. And you'll almost certainly pay import fees. PTS is cheaper. KWA are due to release a standard Colt styled RM4 that has the battery in the stock. So maybe wait for that? Should be out within the next few months I reckon, or at least I hope! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JedimiNjoke Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) On a quick sidenote (question), if I may . The guns in question: http://www.guay2.com/web/gt_product/g4cqb_r.php?lang=en http://www.guay2.com/web/gt_product/TR16CL.php?lang=en Does anyone know if these two guns have the same internals (aka same quality) or could there be a difference? At my local supplier it says the TR4 has a 6.04 barrel, and the TR16 has 6.03 (for example) and some other differences in favor of the TR16.If I?m really pushing my luck here with the question, would you be so kind to redirect me to the proper thread?Thanks! Edited April 13, 2014 by JedimiNjoke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 On a quick sidenote (question), if I may . The guns in question: http://www.guay2.com/web/gt_product/g4cqb_r.php?lang=en http://www.guay2.com/web/gt_product/TR16CL.php?lang=en Does anyone know if these two guns have the same internals (aka same quality) or could there be a difference? At my local supplier it says the TR4 has a 6.04 barrel, and the TR16 has 6.03 (for example) and some other differences in favor of the TR16. If I?m really pushing my luck here with the question, would you be so kind to redirect me to the proper thread? Thanks! If they've both been manufactured at roughly the same time (so that they fall into the same "generation") then they should be identical internally. I think the Nickel-plated 6.03mm barrels that G&G use aren't as good/accurate as their 6.04 brass barrels, but changing barrel is the work of a moment so I wouldn't worry about it much. If they're from different generations the differences will be slight, parts that may be different are; inner barrel, wiring, motor, battery connectors and possibly MOSFET (the Gen3 G&G rifles should all have MOSFETs now). If the gun is really really old (3 years+) then it'll have the older, inferior sintered steel rather than machined steel gears. If the Rifle has a neodymium-magnet motor with a bright blue endbell then it's definitely Gen.2 or newer, which is the easiest way to check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vortix Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 And you'll almost certainly pay import fees. Wait, import fees from Poland to the UK? Aren't we all a member of this happy place called the European Union which abolished those years ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Wait, import fees from Poland to the UK? Aren't we all a member of this happy place called the European Union which abolished those years ago? Ohhhh good point! My bad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vortix Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 No problem The UK has quite a large number of opt-out clauses for its EU membership so it would have been possible. Luckily it isn't, because my various hobbies throughout the years have driven me to buy a lot of internet goodies through UK shops 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fishkabob Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 How does the recoil on this compare to the kwa erg or the tokyo marui Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 How does the recoil on this compare to the kwa erg or the tokyo marui Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have no experience with the KWA ERG. Compared to a stock Marui Recoil M4, the Bolt M4 has more overall displacement, but the recoil weight is buffered by springs back and forth, so there's less of a sharp "jump" when the recoil weight hits home. Effectively, the Bolt "lazily" lurches backwards and forwards under firing, while the Marui Recoil lurches backwards and then slams forwards. I prefer the feeling of the TM Recoil M4, but the feeling of the Bolt is quite nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelfallenangel Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 How does the recoil on this compare to the kwa erg or the tokyo marui Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I can speak for the Bolt and the ERG. The bolt to me at least feels like a heavy motion but not as quick to cycle while the ERG has a snappy jolt but doesn't feel like it's carrying the weight as far. In my area Bolt's are often used in favor of ERG for people trying to replicate real AR15 since they can get the feeling of the recoil and fire rate more in sync than with the ERG. However I feel my ERG is overall a better preforming gun in every way. Everything feels more solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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