Decima_Mas Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Cant look right now but check out that link i gave you. Also theres a store up here in Canada... names http://www.globalarmysurplus.com/ -Ben Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 what about Flecktarn.co.uk or just as good gear, www.tacgear.de Gordon has some great stuff! Link to post Share on other sites
Decima_Mas Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 WEGE... note he said on the north american continent. -Ben Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I ignored that. Reason why? I am in the same damned country as him: Flecktarn AND tacgear.de have been good with deliveries down here, and it is really not that much different in shipping prices.. was 37Euros to send a large jacket down.. it would have cost 37Euros to send jacket and pants and a cap too.. Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Yeh Flecktarn.co.uk is a good site just want to ask around to see if theres any other places around? Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 http://www.ej-sunglasses.com/carrera/INV/sawtooth.html A good place to get Carreras for cheap in the states. You can also get the PROOptic ones from here, they cost just a little bit more. I have a cheapish kind of flecktarn vest that most of our team uses. WOuld you say this is okay since the KSK doesn't stick to one vest type? Link to post Share on other sites
hammer-nb Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Stuka, dude! Why didn't you say? I've a couple of spare flecktarn bits (inc a Bundeswehr steal helmet w/ cover + another spare cover ... ) I'll bring my extras up for the night game at Paul's (if you going to that). Also, was gonna see if anyone [on Airsoft NZ] wanted to go in on an order to Flecktarn.co.uk ... shipping is a bit of a killer but they have some nice bits ... ) Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Also, was gonna see if anyone [on Airsoft NZ] wanted to go in on an order to Flecktarn.co.uk ... shipping is a bit of a killer but they have some nice bits ... ) Yeah I'm interested in doing an order depending how much I have to fork out for my gun As for the game, yeah I'll probably be going so you can show me that helmet uber coolness PS (hammer-nb = septic?) Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Stuka, dude! Why didn't you say? I've a couple of spare flecktarn bits (inc a Bundeswehr steal helmet w/ cover + another spare cover ... ) I'll bring my extras up for the night game at Paul's (if you going to that). Also, was gonna see if anyone [on Airsoft NZ] wanted to go in on an order to Flecktarn.co.uk ... shipping is a bit of a killer but they have some nice bits ... ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm I´m just wondering ... if you wan´t to go for flecktarn why don´t you order from germany rather than from the UK? Germany is the place where you can Flecktarn cheaper than anywhere else And I´ve a strong feeling ;-) that even shipping costs are cheaper tahn from te UK. Is it because of the language bareer ? Most people in germany speck a somewhat decent english Just my 5 cents Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Seawulfhornblower you have a good point and in away you are right about the language barrier as when I go onto that site you suggested I just don't have a clue where to look as I don't understand what it says I might check the currency rate and see if theres much difference thanks for the idea Link to post Share on other sites
Kingmob3 Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Got to love the Holo sight on the .50 HMG.This is a great bunch of links as I am in the process of revamping my cothing and load out.Currently is is fleck hemd un hose, mit in aelter BHI MOLLIE veste. Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Well , this might help you translating the basics you need to understand. http://babelfish.altavista.com/ It works somehow... I´m shure that it will be a hell of a difference in price to buy FT in germany . btw. if you get in touch with those people ....they speak english ;-) Regarding ordering in your language may be you try this link http://www.recon-company.com/sitedesign/en...ome.htm?Lang=en Tehy are good as well Link to post Share on other sites
exentrik Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Some good info from this thread. I too had been thinking about a Flecktarn loadout for the past month or so now. It would seem I finally have some direction and sources other than the obvious Flecktarn.co.uk Much thanks to all of the contributors, and if I had the powers I'd give you a rep. Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Regarding ordering in your language may be you try this link http://www.recon-company.com/sitedesign/en...ome.htm?Lang=en Cheers for that seawulfhornblower, this seems to be a very well stocked and somewhat cheap priced store, they have lots of gear listed that Flecktarn.co.uk dont have which is good, the prices are also cheaper then them as well. I checked the exchange rate and is is substantially cheaper than the pound which is approx 1GBP=2.5NZD, where as its only 1EURO=1.75NZD which is much better. I will probably order something from them to see what the shipping etc is like, anbody from the NZ want to do a joint order? Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Cheers for that seawulfhornblower, this seems to be a very well stocked and somewhat cheap priced store, they have lots of gear listed that Flecktarn.co.uk dont have which is good, the prices are also cheaper then them as well. I checked the exchange rate and is is substantially cheaper than the pound which is approx 1GBP=2.5NZD, where as its only 1EURO=1.75NZD which is much better. I will probably order something from them to see what the shipping etc is like, anbody from the NZ want to do a joint order? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A last little hint if you want to order from them. Unfortunately one can´t see the availability of items on their site. So write them an email prior to your actual order to check the final avialability of your choosen items (thats what i usualy do ordering from them). This is just because they usualy just send orders out when everything is complete....well, and this may take a while if something is missing. So I would reccomend checking all this in advance, so you can decide if you may probaply stick with an item thats may be not avialable...and get your order in time. They are very friendly over there an they speak a decent english. Hope you like it h. Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 I'm having webbing troubles as I'm trying to figure out what would be better for my loadout? A tac vest, or tac belt? Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm having webbing troubles as I'm trying to figure out what would be better for my loadout? A tac vest, or tac belt? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you go for a KSK you should go for a vest. Link to post Share on other sites
stuka Posted February 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 A vest you say hmmm, cool OK thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Decima_Mas Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 this is the Standard belt gear loadout im looking at... 2 two mag G36 pouches (4?), canteen and pouch, shovel and pouch, buttpack, suspenders and belt (DUH), compass and pouch, tool/torch pouch, and for the hell of it gasmask canister Link to post Share on other sites
KasrkinCK Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Weapon wise, anything made in Germany is acceptable. The German forces tend to favour homegrown weapons. Why? Because firstly it helps their own economy and secondly any type of weapon they need is right there so why go elsewhere? That's not to say that they neveruse any other weapon I have seen pictures of KSK operatives wearing black vests in a woodland environment, might be worth looking at for those on a budget. I'll try and compile a potential kitlist sometime today for those that are interested. Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Weapon wise, anything made in Germany is acceptable. The German forces tend to favour homegrown weapons. Why? Because firstly it helps their own economy and secondly any type of weapon they need is right there so why go elsewhere? That's not to say that they neveruse any other weapon I have seen pictures of KSK operatives wearing black vests in a woodland environment, might be worth looking at for those on a budget. I'll try and compile a potential kitlist sometime today for those that are interested. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well as far as I´m concerned the only foreign weapon the german Army has currently in use is the m 82 Sniperrifle. All others are german. Well why go somewhere else if HK delivers all you require ;-) Latest example the MP7 and the MG4 Link to post Share on other sites
KasrkinCK Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Righty, I've done some researching into this and here's what I've found so far. Weapons As I've said before, anything German made goes. I've also seen some pictures with a KSK operative wielding what looks, at first glance, to be a Winchester 1300 shotgun. As of yet, I've not found any pictures of KSK members using any other foreign weapon. But it is safe to assume that they are trained in probably hundreds of various firearms. Not saying you can run around in Flecks wielding an M4, just saying you can use your imagination every once in a while G3s in all their various forms still seem quite popular among the men. Also, the G22 Sniping rifle is their weapon of choice for precision firing (Accuracy International AWM). The G36s used seem to come in all shapes and sizes. They use pretty much any variant you can think of. Hell, you can even use Cmags on G36ks if you want. Bipods as well. And it could be a rail monster if you want it to be. Head Gear They seem to use both bundeswehr standard kevlar helmets along with para helmets. Which type appears to be at the discretion of each member. Shemaghs are quite common in both desert and temperate locations. These are either used to protect/disguise the face or used as a form of bandana. These are either olive/black or desert/olive. Boonies is another common item of headgear and sometimes worn accompanied with a shemagh wrapped around the face. Hoods are commonly seen in KSK training pictures and they seem to like wearing them in built up areas. As of yet, I've not seen any field caps. Clothing Obviously either Flecktarn or Tropentarn. It's curious to note that some seem to favour a full Flecktarn overall over the combat shirt/trouser set up. It also appears that many prefer to leave the trousers untucked from their boots (it's all about the details baby!). I am yet to see anyone wearing mixed Flecktarn/Tropentarn get ups but that's not to say no-one ever wears it like that. I'm going to have to find some German pics from Afghanistan. I've stumbled across one or two pics of KSK members in snowy areas and they appear to be wearing Tropentarn instead of snow suits but this could be due to a lack of supply. Neck scarves are again commonly seen but not essential. Flak vests seem to still be worn but again only in certain situations. Also, a 65l assault backpack wouldn't go amiss I picked one up for just under £20 from a local surplus store. Webbing/Vest As people have said, they seem to be able to pick and choose what vests are appropriate for each situation. Standard issue webbing is not uncommon and a mix of flecktarn and tropentarn pouches appears to be acceptable. Black assault vests in woodland areas seems to be acceptable as well. I've found that ones that can fit G36/G3 mags to be hard to come by. My Ibex assault vest (it was cheap and I wanted it for a possible Atlantis kit ) can fit G36 mags but they're a bugger to put in/take out. I have also seen some Tropentarn assault vests being used. Sorry, no SAAVs. Additional Items Leg holsters for sidearms appears to be preferable in woodland environments. Face camo is also a nice touch. This can either be a complete carnival job or just a few smudges. Hydration is a must for anyone doing a desert themed get up. The thing I must stress most here is that a lot of the equipment used appears to be loved and abused. So if you really want that KSK look, you won't achieve it with shiny new flecks. This is by no means a complete list at all. This list was made from observations of various pictures of KSK members and from knowledge I have attained getting my own Bundeswehr gear up and running. Please do not take as gospel. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 SDU vest as well. I don't recommend as the Viper Replica can't hold g36 mags. I'm working on customising the flak jacket and saving up for the IDZ vest, aswell as getting the g36 ksk rail handle. Link to post Share on other sites
KasrkinCK Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Also, Viper products aren't reknowned for their quality Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think they would be using the real vest somehow. I have no experience with the real vest and I don't know alot about so I will not comment. Link to post Share on other sites
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