joeking27 Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I've just had an email, apparently from paypal, asking me to update my bank details. Here is the email, with my address removed: Dear *********@******.****** During our regular update and verification of Accounts, we could not verify your current information. Either your information has been changed or incomplete, as a result your access to use our services has been limited. Please update your information. To update your account information and start using our services please click on the link below: Click Here to Update your Billing Records Note: Requests for information will be initiated by PayPal Business Development; this process cannot be externally requested through Customer Support. Note for Hotmail users: Hotmail has applied anti-fraud plug-in. When users click on a link on webmail it displays a Pop-Up Window with message: "You have clicked a link that leads to unsafe site" ... follows. Please click "OK" to be able to update your billing records. Sincerely, PayPal Accounts Department. This makes me laugh, for many reasons. The author appears to be incredibly stupid. The only details that relate to me are the email address it was sent to. The link is nothing to do with pay pal. anti fraud? Why would they have a stupid thing like that? So, kids, remember this, pay pal do NOT send these emails. They are a hoax that will lose you lots of money. Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Agreed. Paypal and any other financial service (eg online banking services) make a point of never sending e-mails requesting information such as card / account numbers etc. If you should ever receive on the best thing you can do is actually contact the legitimate alternative informing them of the e-mail you've received any other information you are able to offer them (e-mail address - although this will most likely be fake, and possibly other things such as IP address, though again this will be of limited use), and leave it in their hands. That way even if, for some strange, exceptional reason, they had sent the e-mail they will inform you of the situation, and - much, much more likely, they will have the information with which to deal with the issue as they see fit. Link to post Share on other sites
elv Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I've just had an email, apparently from paypal, asking me to update my bank details. Here is the email, with my address removed: This makes me laugh, for many reasons. The author appears to be incredibly stupid. The only details that relate to me are the email address it was sent to. The link is nothing to do with pay pal. anti fraud? Why would they have a stupid thing like that? So, kids, remember this, pay pal do NOT send these emails. They are a hoax that will lose you lots of money. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The funny thing about this is that when you inform or complaint to Paypal about this via their website, they do not respond to it. I got this 2 months back Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I've had an automated response from paypal, which I'll look at later. Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Its easier and faster to follow the mail, including headers, to spoof@paypal.com . They should contact the ISP from the sender and ask them to block the account. Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well spotted Joe. Thread pinned Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Email has been forwarded to spoof@paypal.com On the paypal site mentions this kind of thing. PayPal emails will address you by first name, last name, or business name and NOT by 'Dear PayPal User' or 'Dear PayPal Member. On that note, the spoof email started with my email addy. If you click on a link included in an email you're not sure is from PayPal, make sure the adress at the top of the browser window you're brought to reads exactly www.paypal.com/uk This is probably the most important bit, the link I got went to a different domain. However all the links on the false site were to paypal. I'm not going to post the link, in order that these scammers have the least success possible. I currently have two leads on this guy, an IP in the headers of his email and a web space host. I'm not sure what the IP points to but I'm looking into the host. Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 You may use a tracking program as NeoTraceIt or any anti-spam website as www.spamcop.net and check the results. Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Cheers Nuno! IP comes up as a hosting company in America. I have an email address for them now. I have had a response from spoof@paypal.com, they are fully investigating the matter. Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I am a Nigerian diplomat, please furnish me with your most confidential details, so that I may transfer ridiculous and illegal amounts of money, and steal your cash in the process. F###tards... Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I am a Nigerian diplomat, please furnish me with your most confidential details, so that I may transfer ridiculous and illegal amounts of money, and steal your cash in the process. F###tards... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And why is it always nigerians... Link to post Share on other sites
Spedz Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 can nigerian even afford the stuff for scamming? o0 Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Ya I always wondered why it always a nigerian? On that other thread in the off topic section about scammers, they had the guy that sold like cart parts, and had a lot of scammers like the "Do you eat sheet?" they obviousily didn't know english very well seeing they fell for the trick. There was also a link to those guys that found ways, that they could be the ones taking from the scammers. One guy, would post up his telephone conversations with the scammer, and he sounded of that area of the world. Is it where as Spedz fx said that they're poor, so there lookin for a way to make a quick buck. Just my 2 Cents! Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I am a diplomat from a third-world country, and am of an ethnic minority. Please furnish me with your most confidential details, so that I may transfer ridiculous and illegal amounts of money, and steal your cash in the process. Done. Link to post Share on other sites
rizzo Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 There was that funny thread that Arnie started about scammers. Link to post Share on other sites
nmcabecadas Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Just a couple more examples of people trying to get money that should be donated to victims of the recent tragedy in the Pacific. Check the name of the organization: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:47:25 -0700 (GMT+7) Subject: YOUR DONATION From: "RED CROSS WORLDWILD" <redcrossv@ibatam.com> To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Reply-To: redcross@tsamail.co.za ASIAN COMMUNUNAL RED CROSS SOCIETY WORLDWIDE, EUROPE SECTION, Zanderij 25-27, 1185 ZM Amstelveen AMSTERDAM DE NETHERLANDS. DEAR FRIEND, YOUR CONTRIBUTION CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE The horror of the largest earthquake in 40 years emerged as the death toll soared over 55,000 and hopes faded for many thousands still missing. Sunday's quake, the fourth largest recorded since 1900 and measuring 9.0 on the Richter scale, occurred after a rupture on the Indian Ocean seabed caused by the violent grinding of two tectonic plates. Walls of water up to 10 metres (33 feet) high were reported around Asia, roaring ashore with unstoppable speed, sweeping people off beaches, flattening hotels and homes, uprooting trees and overturning cars. The trail of devastation came after an earthquake erupted off Indonesia on Sunday, triggering giant tidal waves which battered Sri Lanka, India, Thailand, Indonesia, the Maldives, Myanmar and Malaysia. Please update yourself with http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/12/3...uake/index.html Just as we did during the terrible Gujarat earthquake of January 26, 2001, when we collected Rs. 26 lakhs (more than half of the total donations collected) in association with the Indian Red Cross, we appeal again for your contributions, to help alleviate the sufferings of the teeming millions along India's eastern coastline. Kindly make your donation for the victims via ASIAN COMMUNAL RED CROSS SOCIETY, on behalf of the victims. PLS REACH THE SECRETARY THROUGH THIS EMAIL TO OBTAIN THE INFORMATION TO MAKE YOUR DONATION; MISS TINA KHMELNITSKY EMAIL: redcrossworldwideeurosec11@oleco.net Thank you for you kindheartedness and your sympathy. May God Bless You. Thank You. RED CROSS SOCIETY WORLDWIDE ----------------------------------------- Kunjungi pusat informasi Batam. http://www.ibatam.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 http://www.419eater.com/ 'Nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites
Asso Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 I'm a 419eaters member as of today and I just recently started pissing off a scammer with my brand spanking new free anti-scammer address, 250MB of pure free, clean mountain ai... I mean, anti-scam delight! Thx silver for the site! Link to post Share on other sites
Shao14 Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 This following email I got from fake "paypal". This one almost got me. "From: "PayPal" <aw-service@paypal.com> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Subject: You have added a new credit card home address! Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:28 -0800 This email confirms that you have added the following address to your account: 1515 6th Street Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 United States To remove this address go to : https://paypal.com/webscreen=?cmd_remove/va...ookie?newadress Sincerely, PayPal Did you know: EBAY HAS PRODUCTS FOR YOUR NEW HOME * Lawn Mowers * Faucets * BBQs * Furniture * Spas & Pools * Flowers * Lamps * Vacuums * Major Appliances * Plants * Tools * Wallpaper Go to http://home.ebay.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD NEVER give your password to anyone and ONLY log in at https://www.paypal.com/. Protect yourself against fraudulent websites by opening a new web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer or Netscape) and typing in the PayPal URL every time you log in to your account. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PayPal Email ID PP006 " My first reaction was "wtf? Somebody stole my paypal account and add their own credit card? But then I felt funny because wouldn't that mean I could use his/her credit card to buy me stuff? Anyways, being an honest person who I am (), I clicked on the link thinking about removing the address. (The action of my clicking on the link was stupid enough, and might have compromised my computer, but in this case, I don't think my computer's been compromised yet, I think the scamer is trying to steal my paypal account info instead of infecting my computer with virus.) If you are brave enough, and click on the link (disclaimer: I don't take any responsibility for your clicking on the link), you'll see this is a really well made paypal page. I couldn't tell the difference between this page and the real paypal page until I took a look at the domain name is the URL. It's "196.34.88.250". I checked the registration for the IP address, and it belongs to OrgName: The Internet Solution OrgID: IS Address: The Campus, 57 Sloane Street Address: Bryanston City: Johannesburg StateProv: Gauteng PostalCode: 2021 Country: ZA I'm going to report this page to the ISP server who manages this IP address, and hopefully, they'll take appropriate action. Link to post Share on other sites
Asso Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Here's a fake Paypal e-mail I receive, the e-mail account is new (about 1 week old), and worst, I don't have paypal. So here it is: From: "PayPal" <support@paypal.com> Add to Address Book To: **************@yahoo.com Subject: PayPal Flagged Account Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:01:40 -0600 Dear PayPal Member, Your account has been randomly flagged in our system as a part of our routine security measures. This is a must to ensure that only you have access and use of your PayPal account and to ensure a safe PayPal experience. We require all flagged accounts to verify their information on file with us. To verify your Information at this time, please visit our secure server webform by clicking the hyperlink below Click here to verify your Information Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address cannot be answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and choose the "Help" link in the footer of any page. To receive email notifications in plain text instead of HTML, update your preferences here. PayPal Email ID PP478 Protect Your Account Info Make sure you never provide your password to fraudulent websites. To safely and securely access the PayPal website or your account, open up a new web browser (e.g. Internet Explorer or Netscape) and type in the PayPal URL (http://www.paypal.com/). PayPal will never ask you to enter your password in an email. For more information on protecting yourself from fraud, please review our Security Tips at http://www.paypal.com/securitytips How stupid do these people think they are? I'm going to fool around giving them a hard time like the mugu's I'm taking time from. Link to post Share on other sites
Asso Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 BTW if you read PayPal's security tips page it clearly says: Look for a PayPal Greeting: PayPal will never send an email with the greeting "Dear PayPal User" or "Dear PayPal Member." Real PayPal emails will address you by your first and last name or the business name associated with your PayPal account. If you believe you have received a fraudulent email, please forward the entire email—including the header information—to spoof@paypal.com. We investigate every spoof reported. Please note that the automatic response you get from us may not address you by name. Link to post Share on other sites
nickorooster Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I got REALLY screwed over by some guy on eBay (he had really good feedback...) who basically stole some other guy's money and deposited it into my PayPal account, then asked me to send it to him. Its a good thing I didn't (due to bank transfer times) send it immediately, 'cause the other guy came and asked why I had $850 of his. I am sorting it out now, and he's getting all his money back, but due to the changing exchange rates I'm getting screwed out of about 40 pounds. Sucks? YES. 40 Pounds was all I had. Not kidding . So I'm trying to sort it out with Paypal to get them to use the old exchange rate... Nick Link to post Share on other sites
joeking27 Posted February 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I've personally come to the conclusion that pay pat sucks. They have their wonderful protection schemes, which aren't all the effective. Nick: found this in the User Agreement: To notify us if you believe there has been an error or unauthorised transaction, telephone PayPal Customer Service at 08707 307 191 or contact us using this report form as soon as you can. We must hear from you as soon as possible after the problem or error has appeared on your online statement. If you initially provide information to us via the telephone, we may require that you send your complaint or question in writing. I would give them a ring, and be very adamant that you are NOT paying £40 because of some scammer. Someone elses account got compromised, and as a result someone else is out of pocket. They have contacted pay pal, and PP are in the process of recovering funds, at no point have you broken any agreement, in essence its PP's problem, not yours. Link to post Share on other sites
Jow Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hello, I am a PayPal representative and must inform you that all members of Arnies airsoft forums' PayPal accounts have fallen victim to a newely discovered PayPal bug, please send your paypal details to me VIA a PM and I will sort this bug out imidieatly. Too prove I am a PayPal official, here is a PayPal logo: Please, PLEASE, don't send me your details, well, you can if you want. Link to post Share on other sites
rizzo Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 lol jowep Link to post Share on other sites
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