MAA_Elvis Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 It seems that retailers are no longer carrying Phantom's CIRAS line! Mysteriously, shortly after announcing the new Multicam version of the Phantom CIRAS, Redwolf has removed all references from their site. I emailed them asking whether the Phantom CIRAS was no longer available and I got a response of: "Yes, you are correct!" Other retailers (1337tactical.com- based in Canada) also have removed the product from their site and Ebay. Link to post Share on other sites
Pain_is_Red Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 WTF?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Headhunter3 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 wow, you werent kidding......wtf is right!!! this is all i could find http://estore.websitepros.com/1332214/Cate...art=13&total=16 and http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to post Share on other sites
Pain_is_Red Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 wow, you werent kidding......wtf is right!!! this is all i could find http://estore.websitepros.com/1332214/Cate...art=13&total=16 and http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...1QQcmdZViewItem <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hahaha, you can always count on Krist at AA when the chips are down. Wish I had the money for a CIRAS now with this sudden disappearance I have a sinking suspicion that Eagle is behind this, which means we may not see a replica CIRAS for a while if not ever. I don't see the CIRAS on any websites, and that goes for PROUD's version as well! Link to post Share on other sites
Headhunter3 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 lol, yep AA is my new best friend.....thats where i got my CIRAS from.....great guy and great customer service. Link to post Share on other sites
yellowman Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 -ehobby http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-USMC-Marine-Mo...oQQcmdZViewItem Link to post Share on other sites
The Saint Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Goodbye CIRAS. Hello W*asatch. Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Is it possible that Eagle may have trademarked the CIRAS name? I saw Redwolf still had plate cariers and RAVs by phantom available, so it must be strictly someting in the CIRAS name. If so, Phantom may still be able to sell the Vest under a different name. I don't know that much about copywrite law though. Hopefully they will find a way of getting the replica CIRAS vests back on the market. Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin7 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I email Kastway Airsoft and asked about ordering on and this is what I got back: "We no longer sell the vest due to it being very similar to the Eagle vest." I just ordered one form Ehobby a few days ago. Here is another one that I found on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...4QQcmdZViewItem Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Eagle has patents on a lot of the features of the vest as well, so simply changing the name would not help. It's like the Glock trigger safety: If it's there, it doesn't matter what you call it. That's why KWA Glocks in the US don't have the trigger safety feature. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Oh hamburgers! I was a week or two away from ordering one of these Link to post Share on other sites
Grand'pa Cthulhu Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I just ordered one a week ago. It should be here soon. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 There's a fair amount a US based company can do to get an online store to C&D from selling copyrighted items, but no where near as much when it comes to physical stores based in foreign countries. They may be taken off the online stores but I'd be really surprised if they stopped selling them in their actual physical stores in HK. Over the years, the HK government has been pretty strict about pirated software and movies, but replicas of copyrighted items like this tend to be off their radar. For the most part, Eagle is probably more concerned about the HK sellers selling the replicas to people outside of HK than they are to HK nationals. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Thats not coll, I wanted one. Oh well, I might get the Phantom PCWC or the Eagle. Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Just when they were gonna release the multicam one, too. LINK That's gotta be a big hit to their $$$ after aquiring materials and labor, R&D, advertising, etc. OUCH. On a side note I noticed redwolf had on the product page "does not come with the phantom label", maybe they actually reproduced the eagle label (bad move) and got pinched. Edit: added link Link to post Share on other sites
kliskey Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 If you still want a Phatom Ciras, Buy from Here The guy is awsome You could also try his Shop The item and shipping prices are amazing Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Dont know why but I just started singing the title of this post to that song "Where have all the cowboys gone" by Paula Cole... Where is my multicam Where is my coyote brown Where is my olive draft Where have all the ciras gone Man Im losing it. @ kliskey thanks for that scopeand laser site, will be trying them out for a few items! Link to post Share on other sites
x.black-jack.x Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 They are discounted at 155$ @ hobbyasia.com till the end of the month :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I'm not a big kit person, I don't dress myself to any particular uniform but I was actually looking at these Phantom CIRAS' as something I'd like to buy. Now they've been magic'd away like they never existed - no word or mention of it on WGC and Redwolf. I can only assume some legal action has affected Phantom and these products have been yanked but it'd be nice to actually be told I still have the one I was going to get bookmarked from Redwolf: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=20382 I would have thought I was loosing my mind if it wasn't for this thread and that bookmark Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 People like ehobbyasia will still have some if you contact them.They mightn't be breaking their countries law by selling them & you wont be breaking our laws by buying them,if in doubt email & ask? Link to post Share on other sites
x.black-jack.x Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 You can still buy the G&P CIRAS (land version), which are rebranded Phantom's with a different set of pouch. They are still available, I assume. Hope you'll understand, I'm sorry but my english is rather bad Link to post Share on other sites
Pain_is_Red Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Their are still copies of CIRAS' out there that haven't been removed. So what I want to know is exactly WHAT Eagle has wrong with the the vest other than, I'm assuming, Phantom copying their release system. Couldn't Phantom just come out with the same vests that just don't include a pull cord release system? Or is there much much more evil legal bits than that? Link to post Share on other sites
statikzero Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I still have the one I was going to get bookmarked from Redwolf: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=20382 I would have thought I was loosing my mind if it wasn't for this thread and that bookmark <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup, looks to be legal trouble, IMHO. That link you posted has seen the name changed. It used to say Phantom C.I.R.A.S. not too long ago, as I was shopping these as well. I ended up getting the one SWAT makes in multicam (posted pics in the multicam photo thread). Link to post Share on other sites
alpha54 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 That's ######, I was going to order a Phantom CIRAS in MC at the end of next month... Any ideas where I could get it from now? Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 If you look on here http://www.airsoftsupplier.co.uk/shop.php?...s&sub_cat=Proud you will see they are still stocked.I have mailed them regarding an order i wish to place next week {but i haven't heard anything back yet but it was only the other day i mailed them,modern world communications funny! } Otherwise i'm in the market for a load out like airsoftsupplier sell in C/B Link to post Share on other sites
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