gafes Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The SCAR H from Classic Army is now in Stock at UNCO, only black at the moment. Clicky Link to post Share on other sites
caleso Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The SCAR H from Classic Army is now in Stock at UNCO, only black at the moment. Clicky I don't know why but, it doesnt look very nice Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 It also seems to lack some of the features that other high end SCARs seem to come with as standard, like functioning bolt release, no exposed wires in the stock, and an anodized upper. The Trades are a half hearted, only says Herstal and not FN Herstal as it should....and from the photos shown (which are usually very good on UNcompany) it does somehow look cheap. Fair play to CA for getting their SCAR H out on the market first, but I'd rather wait for either STAR or better still, IMHO, VFC. Maybe someone can do a review at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The only thing the CA's have going for them is the fact that they retain the basic ergonomics of the scar, albeit loosely, which are extremely nice. That and the fact that they have an EXCELLENT hopup system and gearbox. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 How does the CA hop and gearbox compare to Tokyo Marui? I always considered CA internals to be competent, but I've never heard of them as being excellent. It also raises the point, that after having access to models such as the VFC and STAR SCAR, how CA have not opted to up their game in the looks department. Link to post Share on other sites
SWAT_Doc Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 it dosnt look all "that" bad. im looking at picking up a scar H and building me a new DMR platform. i already own the VFC Scar L i believe ill just be waiting on VFC to release the H. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 How does the CA hop and gearbox compare to Tokyo Marui? I always considered CA internals to be competent, but I've never heard of them as being excellent. It also raises the point, that after having access to models such as the VFC and STAR SCAR, how CA have not opted to up their game in the looks department. You should know by now that on the surface it really doesnt appear as though CA gives a damned about how good their replicas look. To date i truly believe that the finest CA replica is the SA58, what a nice piece of work that gun is. Everything else just isnt finished as well. The thing that really ###### me off about this situation is that CA puts together some VERY solid replicas. The only problem is that the surface finish on 99% of them is hideous and wears off just by looking at it. All of the newer CA guns that come with the CQB style revised gearbox have excellent internals. CA did a great job cloning the systema gearbox and quite frankly, it meets or exceeds the performance of Systemas pre assembled offerings. The only thing that Systema has over the CA unit is that systemas gearsets are a bit better made but the CA's are perfectly serviceable. There are however two complaints that i have with the CA CQB style gearboxes. 1. They come with an aluminum piston head...why? 2. The nozzles can sometimes be wonky with aftermarket hopup units. Its not uncommon for the nozzles to be too short. Other than that they're fantastic. Ive said it before and ill say it again. If you're the kind of airsoft that doesnt give a flying hoot about what your replica looks like you should seriously consider the CA scar line since the hopup design on the guns is one of the most consistent out there. If you do give a damn and you have any interest at all in overall looks and quality of the finish on the weapon then the VFC scar is for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The only thing the CA's have going for them is the fact that they retain the basic ergonomics of the scar, albeit loosely, which are extremely nice. Loosely is the key word here, I think they're quite inferior to VFC/SCAR...not having the folding stock geometry right is just an unforgivable error. The H looks worse than the L, wrong barrel. Link to post Share on other sites
caleso Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I think in term of the "H" war, I'me going to go for the Star, it just looks right to me and with an eglm package it really closes the deal for me Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Loosely is the key word here, I think they're quite inferior to VFC/SCAR...not having the folding stock geometry right is just an unforgivable error. The H looks worse than the L, wrong barrel. The cheekpiece issue has been remedied on the H version. Link to post Share on other sites
Glenn Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The cheekpiece issue has been remedied on the H version. I saw that, hopefully that change works it's way down to the L, too. STAR just made a Gen III cheekpeice available, too, so hopefully EVERYONE's SCAR L will at least look mostly right now. The problem with the CA is the stock still folds in such a way that a right handed grip on the weapon is impeded. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I saw that, hopefully that change works it's way down to the L, too. STAR just made a Gen III cheekpeice available, too, so hopefully EVERYONE's SCAR L will at least look mostly right now. The problem with the CA is the stock still folds in such a way that a right handed grip on the weapon is impeded. True. Link to post Share on other sites
tshrake521 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Anybody know the main difference between L and H version of the SCAR for airsoft (Don't say barrel caliber... there all 6mm in airsoft! Besides the trademarks of course Link to post Share on other sites
k30dxedle Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Ok...then besides mags, there's basically none, except EGLM compatibility? Well, except on the STARs. (L has Gen2 cheekpiece, H has Gen3, I don't know why) Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Anybody know the main difference between L and H version of the SCAR for airsoft (Don't say barrel caliber... there all 6mm in airsoft! Besides the trademarks of course ....? well the size of the lower receiver between the two variants is probably the first thing you notice. Link to post Share on other sites
RedRaptor Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 STAR just made a Gen III cheekpeice available Oh, do tell. Link PLEASE. Now maybe someone can get around to releasing spare selector switch sets. Link to post Share on other sites
Pdubyuh Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I think the main thing about the looks is why only in black ??? I can vouch for their internals MY CA SCAR L was only firing at 250 FPS but it was still getting the same range as guns firing up to 350, the hop up is that great. Now its upgraded it should have some awsome range, even with that said i'mstill going tomorrow to get me a VFC scar L hmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I'll wait for the STAR or VFC one myself... because it's all about the EGLM! Hopefully they'll have sorted the tappet plates too! Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 aye, and the sealing issues between nozle and hop up. and though i know Americans for some reason love CA, i've heard a lot of complaints about the scar L when it was first released, and i'd take a nice m4-style metal gear box by star or one of them self-shimming-gear-set-boxes by vfc over any CA stuff any day. not to mention the vfc tappet plate is also bendable sideways without breaking...as i accidentally found out... as for the difference between L and H in airsoft, the H uses the sr-25 mags, which are had to come by other than as high caps Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Christ, thats one thing I didn't think of... Ls take M4 mags.. but will the SCAR Hs all use the same mags? Compability? CA will just leave it at hicaps, VFC probs will too, but STAR will do lows and mids for em.. that might force my hand to buy STAR if they don't fit in VFC. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Come on....I know ya'll waiting for the Systema SCAR L and H....come on, you know you are. :) #I have no evidence that Systema are actually developing a SCAR....but they'd be mad not to, don't you think?# Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Come on....I know ya'll waiting for the Systema SCAR L and H....come on, you know you are. :) #I have no evidence that Systema are actually developing a SCAR....but they'd be mad not to, don't you think?# It took them something like three years to develop the mp5. By the time they go ahead and develop the scar SOCOM is going to be using pulse rifles... Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 And considering that every PTW so far has had loads of problems, I cba with them anymore. If the "Revolution" works, I'll buy that, but sod a PTW... £1100 for a gun that can't be used in the rain or damp, chops BBs up, piston head falls off, warranty is *fruitcage*ed if you don't use a Systema battery... yeah right! On your bike mate! Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 It took them something like three years to develop the mp5. By the time they go ahead and develop the scar SOCOM is going to be using pulse rifles... LMAO Oh, no...what have I done....I've opened up the can marked "Systema WORMS" Shriven Systema is the Ferrari of the airsoft world....and by adding a suppressor to the end of your gun, you WILL attract the opposite sex Link to post Share on other sites
gun5h311 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Systema is the Ferrari of the airsoft world....and by adding a suppressor to the end of your gun, you WILL attract the opposite sex Whoa I've been going at this all wrong.. I gotta get me a suppressor. Back to topic: I think the CA SCAR looks like a subpar product for the price point @ $400, I think @ $250, its a good buy. Rather then trying to chase VFC or STAR, Why not try to hit the Mid level market, @ 250 I would buy one to throw around but at 400 I would wait for VFC or STAR's offerings. Anyone noticed they released the Black one first this time, rather then the Tan. It looks like its using the CA25 URX Magazines. Link to post Share on other sites
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