Crimson Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Latest Sniper Rifle for BELL, Complete Clone of Tanaka/ KJ M700, Full Metal construction, Gas powered (Gas Magazine). http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...3f299b3f16c1eff Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I hope it really is a Tanaka clone down to the hop rubber and inner barrel. The ones KJW churned out with the redesigned parts weren't very precise. Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 i hope it isnt. people are gonna buy up this gun and make owning a gas sniper rifle just as common as owning an M4, MP5, or P90... This is a sad day for Tanaka owners... Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Edit: So what? Just because you own a rifle doesn't mean you can use it. People said the same thing when the A&K M249 came out, and not everyone owns an M249. Most people are probably going to look at this and pass it up for another AK or M4 AEG. Huh, looks pretty cool. If it's at least as good as the KJ, it'll be a steal (comparatively, at least). Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Owning a P90 is no way near as common as owning an M4 or MP5, but clones are happening its something we have got to get use to (Has been like this since CYMA released there improved ak's). But it does seem they are getting better and better. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 As a tanaka AICS owner, i'm hoping they can make decent mags and eventually clone the AICS. I'm a bit tired of paying about 60 quid a mag! Either way, i doubt this will be a particularly good performing rifle as even tanaka haven't got it quite right though if it can take the Pax hop conversion then it would certainly be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Sturaiku Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 i hope it isnt. people are gonna buy up this gun and make owning a gas sniper rifle just as common as owning an M4, MP5, or P90... This is a sad day for Tanaka owners... P90..lol wat. I wonder where you were when WELL released like, 3 gas sniper rifles. Heh, I was about to say the same thing Chris north said. Anyway, If it's anything like BELL's 1911 quality, It might be a decent knock-off. I still think it might be overlooked for better quality replicas. Other then that, I'd bet it'd be nothing more than a gun for parts. Link to post Share on other sites
catfishsalesco Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Might be a good cheap base for a parker Hale m85 conversion! Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Even by looking at it, I can tell it's not a Tanaka clone, and leans much more towards the KJW in quality. Look at the plastic on that stock! The others are right... This is a sad day for Tanaka owners, and gas enthusiasts in general. Cue gas snipers being banned at fields because n00bs with green/red gas are running round shooting people from way too close... Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 It looks to me like a tanaka clone It even has the hop adjuster on the scope rail, which suggests that it does indeed use the tanaka style hop. I don't think we have to worry about "n00bs" getting gas rifles banned. If they were going to do that they could have done it with the KJW already. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I meant the general quality, but yeah. I don't see any sign of a P.C.S. clone, either. This is going to make it much more cost effective for new players to have a gas rifle. Depending on whether this is a good clone or not, you can take that as a good or bad thing. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
HermanTheGerman Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Who cares it ain't a tanaka. Nor will it be EVER! I do agree mind, I always thought the high price of the M249's made sense, now everyone has one! Damn clones, why can't these company's make something new! The misses was told by customs, that everything coming into the U.K from H.K is being checked as there's loads of counterfeit goods coming in! So it is not only airsoft that is getting a back hander from the copy cats! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 It even has the hop adjuster on the scope rail, which suggests that it does indeed use the tanaka style hop. The KJW clone also adjusts the hop in this manner. Its just that the barrel is cut like an AEG with a thicker AEG style hop rubber installed as well (a poor one at that). Tanaka has the barrel differently shaped and the hop rubber is a 3 piece deal. I wouldn't be worried about a lot of noobs running around shouting they're snipers. After all it takes skill to make decent shots, something they obviously lack. The same goes for the 249 but requires muscle instead of skill. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I wouldn't be worried about a lot of noobs running around shouting they're snipers. After all it takes skill to make decent shots, something they obviously lack. They already do that! Clone L96... JG BAR-10? But at least those rifles are spring, and mostly un-upgraded. There is a definite safety aspect here. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 They already do that! Clone L96... JG BAR-10? Exactly my point. Ever wonder where all the snipers are? A lot of noobs got one or the other to try sniping out, which is a good thing. But even though those two examples are good clones, a lot of them didn't stay too long in the field and I'm seeing a lot of bolties going for sale for the common reason of "sniping not my thing" which translates to "I can't hit a thing" in my book. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Actually, that is a point. I do see quite a few turn up with snipers, and then after half a day, switch to AEG's. This clone probably won't be as good as the BAR 10, anyway. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
catfishsalesco Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Who cares it ain't a tanaka. Nor will it be EVER! I do agree mind, I always thought the high price of the M249's made sense, now everyone has one! Damn clones, why can't these company's make something new! <Offtopic> Ah yes, the CA M249, so original, basically copy of a TOP m249 with a Die Cast copy of the PGC gearbox for the same gun? Its not just the Chinese that clone ya know! </offtopic> On topic- If it is a decent replica I would be rather tempted, even if it would just to be a bit of a little used display peice! (Too ADHD for sniping me.) Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Wonder if it makes a good cheap HPA kit base.. ? Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 That's what i was wondering but for CO2 ....... no doubt someone will try it soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 <Offtopic> Ah yes, the CA M249, so original, basically copy of a TOP m249 with a Die Cast copy of the PGC gearbox for the same gun? Its not just the Chinese that clone ya know! </offtopic> The fact that Classic Army is Chinese is a bit of a flaw in that argument . Link to post Share on other sites
Porscht Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 some other pix on RSOV http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=2634 looks interesting even for an clone. Link to post Share on other sites
catfishsalesco Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 The fact that Classic Army is Chinese is a bit of a flaw in that argument . Well, HK as opposed to Mainland China. Like G&P et all. Although most of the parts are proably still made in mainland china. Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have big plans for my Mauser M/96 stock once I can order one of these Bell M700s. I tried with a AGM VSR10 but failed. But this, this will be my triumph! Link to post Share on other sites
Korppi Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Wonder if it makes a good cheap HPA kit base.. ? It's begging to be bought for that, it's all up to the hop-up rubber. Very tempted to try out. Edit: Wait, the mag has the valve on the top side.. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I was actually able to hook up one of those KWC rigs by drilling and tapping a hole on the bottom of the mag. Unfortunately the monkey metal didn't hold the threads well, so I ended up epoxying the fitting in. Improved consistency by a considerable amount, but it made the gun a bit more bulky and I found that (with the KJ at least) I couldn't crank the pressure up past normal propane pressure without getting light strikes. Edit: Spelling... Link to post Share on other sites
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