chas Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 According to Darklite, the BB system is based on Marui´s M4 system, thus, there's no room for a a battery in the body, so non full-stock AKs are highly unlikely to be produced, Here's still hoping that they make one with LiPo in the handguard or something. http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=1007 Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Now that's pretty cool! I'd definitely want to find out what internal parts are proprietary though, and then make sure there are replacements for those potentially broken proprietary parts available before even thinking about purchasing one of these bad boys. Still though, quite cool looking! I'll be hoping someone pics up one of these and does a full photo walk through of the internals. Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Its a CYMA, so hopefully there won't be many internal parts going kaput Link to post Share on other sites
Godo Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 ...still can't understand that blowback-hype... Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 For me, that hype is because I wont listen the motor spining but a clack clack clack instead, bit less annoying. Other than that, its a cool feature Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger_Biscuit Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Anybody else reminded of those old automatic typewriter/printers by the noise of the blowback? Either that or the sound of a money counter... Back OT, be nice to see their AKM and hopefully a full stock AK74 with this too. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Back OT, be nice to see their AKM and hopefully a full stock AK74 with this too. Its a matter of time... Link to post Share on other sites
jond36 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Its all about realistic recoil. A AEG with blowback does not incorperate that , a GBB rifles does. Stick to a G&P WOC M16/M4 series. Link to post Share on other sites
Kaworu Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 It uses the common AEG Magazine, or, like TM AKM, uses a proprietary magazine? See ya! []'s Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 According to Darklite, the BB system is based on Marui´s M4 system, thus, there's no room for a a battery in the body, so non full-stock AKs are highly unlikely to be produced, Here's still hoping that they make one with LiPo in the handguard or something. http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=1007 Based on the TM AK74m recoil thingy. And yes, it takes standard AK AEG mags - not the new TM AK74 ones. Link to post Share on other sites
nodaisho Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Its all about realistic recoil. For you, maybe. For me, it is about at least getting a nice clack clack clack sound when i fire. And I seriously doubt that your G&P gets realistic recoil, even for an AR15. And it is nice to know that I would be able to use this year-round, rather than needing a back-up in case of cold weather, like we get here in places that aren't California. And what is better for a snowy game than an AK? say it with me, WOLVERINES! Glad that they aren't going with the TM magazines. It would be nice eventually, once there are more, but for now you would be stuck with 74 style magazines if you wanted higher quality replacements. Link to post Share on other sites
xerxes Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 For you, maybe. For me, it is about at least getting a nice clack clack clack sound when i fire. And I seriously doubt that your G&P gets realistic recoil, even for an AR15... Different strokes for different folks, certainly, but the G&P gives a much louder 'clack-clack' noise with none of the sewing machine whine and gives recoil just slightly more than a .22LR round. Link to post Share on other sites
Alakdan101 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 we already have that BB AK47 last month... as I posted it here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...p;#entry2026208 Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Its all about realistic recoil. A AEG with blowback does not incorperate that , a GBB rifles does. Stick to a G&P WOC M16/M4 series. this uses a clone of TM's recoil engine so it will give more kick than a typical blowback kit. anything is better than nothing, AEGs are more convenient than GBBs so it's kind of a trade off. AEGs are far more practical in general and if i can get any recoil/feedback i'll take it. Link to post Share on other sites
mrpugster Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 this uses a clone of TM's recoil engine so it will give more kick than a typical blowback kit. anything is better than nothing, AEGs are more convenient than GBBs so it's kind of a trade off. AEGs are far more practical in general and if i can get any recoil/feedback i'll take it. erm does it? Isn't the recoil engine both versions 1 and 2 something different to the blowback mechism used by TM? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 huh? most blowback kits are simply that, a moving bolt. TM designed a recoil mechanism for their new AK74M and M4 which, as the name implies, is designed to give a bit of kick. cyma cloned this mechanism and stuck it on a regular V3. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 According to Darklite, the BB system is based on Marui´s M4 system, thus, there's no room for a a battery in the body, so non full-stock AKs are highly unlikely to be produced, Here's still hoping that they make one with LiPo in the handguard or something. I just remebered that the VFC AIMS has blowback. I hope Cyma dont mind cloning two different blowback systems. I seem to remember the VFC system had some flaws, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 VFC system is like the guarder one, a bit *suitcase, a beautiful *suitcase in a beautiful external package, but *suitcase nonetheless Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Sorry for the double post. Its on sale now on RSOV.com Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 wooooooooot! lets hope TM dont file a lawsuit before my birthday Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 wooooooooot! lets hope TM dont file a lawsuit before my birthday i told you so looong time ago it was Marui based blowback but you didnt believe , hope it works im sure Cyma or any other ACM factory dont give a damn what TM thinks or does as they cannot get them Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 i know, i know although i was more skeptical about the MP5 blowback (which isnt a TM recoil mech clone) i know the chinese done care about patents (otherwise cyma wouldnt have cloned it in the first place ), i'm just worried that TM will be as aggressive as the likes of magpul. still, it's not like cymas will make their way into japan (the only market TM cares about) so TM's market will be untouched. i doubt they consider cyma a threat Link to post Share on other sites
superfelix Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 was told by a Polish Shop that they will release an RPK on August Link to post Share on other sites
nodaisho Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I hope they clone an accurate one, rather than the SRC. And I wonder how much it will cost. I also really hope that isn't just a made-up rumor. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hope cyma makes an AK105 or at least an AKSU with BB Anyway, any news on M4 style blow back cloning? would be nice seeing cyma making M4s Link to post Share on other sites
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