the4thpower3 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Can't wait to get my hands on one of these The barrel produce ballistic stability and accuracy of non-hop Hi-CAPA5.1 ノンHOPインナーバレル&チャンバー Hi-CAPA5.1 inner barrel and chamber and non-HOP ¥ 4,800 - (tax) 販売価格 Price ￥ 5,040 －（税込） ¥ 5,040 - (tax included) TRANSLATED FROM LAYLAX WEBSITE Survival Game of seconds or tenths of a competition match shooting & Handgun distance combat in the indoor games like real guns, 8 ~ 10m It is reality that many are being used less than the range. Advanced users, the distance HOP important to improve the accuracy up from effective performance, and customization of hand guns. This item is in the short-range ballistic stability is to increase the versatility and accuracy, athletic daring HOP feature eliminates up to determine the accuracy of fire BB bullets hold tension, temperature and environment of the BB bullet It is adjustable to any speed and load conditions. The optional "NONRIKOIRUSHUTAZUAUTA" and "METARUAUTABARERU SAS" By combining and improving performance further. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 So basically makes your Hi-Capa non-hop for target/ISPC shooting? Seems like a sensible idea, i always found my old (1991 design) TM AMT hardballer non-hop NBB to be very accurate for target shooting upto about 10 meters even with the heavy trigger pull and is even reasonably accurate past that range ;; Link to post Share on other sites
insanity54 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'm still confused. There's no hop up, but there is still something to adjust. Adjusting this device does exactly what? Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I think that's just what the barrel attaches to. I think the thing you get is just the barrel and chamber shown in the top pic. The barrel still needs something to anchor to so you still need the bit with the hop adjustor. Link to post Share on other sites
heroshark Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I think that's just what the barrel attaches to. I think the thing you get is just the barrel and chamber shown in the top pic. The barrel still needs something to anchor to so you still need the bit with the hop adjustor. I think hes reffering to the diagram, and that theres a notch in the front end of the barrel for turning it. Of which I am also curious I think I got it .It puts pressure on a rubber chamber creating friction the full circumference of the bb to adjust the fps. If I'm translating the chinglish correctly Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Um.. ever considered turning the original hop up completely off? Link to post Share on other sites
heroshark Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Um.. ever considered turning the original hop up completely off? still has an effect ,just slightly Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Turning the hop-up all the way off can also lead to BB's falling out of the barrel in hard kicking guns (I happen to know that the4th was having this issue). I think that something like this is long overdue. I just hope that it isn't half baked like some of 9balls other ideas. Link to post Share on other sites
malavern Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 If I'm translating the chinglish correctly Its Jap-glish Japanese, not Chinese... its says something along the line of, for more travel distance, turn the barrel clockwise, or for more short range accuracy, turn the barrel counter-clockwise (or something similar to those lines) Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 that still implies a form of hopup though! Link to post Share on other sites
aerodrew Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I wonder if these will come with varying inner barrel lengths? Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 that still implies a form of hopup though! And it sounds KSC-like....which is worrying.... I still don't quite understand the need for this, its usually not an issue for a Hi-Capa to shoot sub 1" group at over 10m. Most of the airsoft IPSC shots for pistol is not longer than that. How much of an "improvement" scientifically would justify this? Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 There could be situations where having no hop-up could help you maximize something like a 6.01 barrel (they seem to lose their edge over 6.03's with certain setups). But your right, the difference would be very small. Link to post Share on other sites
livingplasma Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I think the improvement in IPSC use would come from the fact that you wouldn't have to hold the gun perfectly vertical to maintain accuracy like you do with a hop up enabled gun. Usually if you have the gun canted in a certain direction, the bb's flight path could veer that way slightly, especially noticable at longer distances. It would make the handling of the airsoft gun more "natural" in this regard, possiblely making aiming around obstacles quicker too since you don't have to angle your wrists to keep the gun level. Now if only they incorperated Tanio Koba's twist barrel, that would make an interesting combination! Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Its Jap-glish Japanese, not Chinese... or the more common, collective term: engrish seems like a sensible idea IMO. i've never really felt the need to switch to a sidearm for a long range shot, so may as well have a bit more accuracy for when things get up close and personal Link to post Share on other sites
Firefly0 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Available now at Redwolf: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=26788 Link to post Share on other sites
Firefly0 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sorry double post... Link to post Share on other sites
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