fiddlesticks4220 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...MK12MOD1_srch_1 looks like now their is a correct MK 12 mod 1 on the market now for those interested. Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Damn't!! VFC does it again! I love their stuff and want want want want!!!! AND it comes with a silencer..seriously what are they going to come up with next? Are they gonna enter the GBB market soon too? Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 IF VFC made a GBB M4 it would put ALL other GBB M4s to shame. Link to post Share on other sites
Whan Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I like VFC's attention to detail, (besides the SR-16 markings on the SR-15). Had I not gotten a G&P, VFC would be next on my list. On another note, though this Mk12 is the first high end MK12, I personally prefer the Mod 0. Link to post Share on other sites
Billy Bob the Sniper Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Looks nice but I do to prefer the Mod 0. Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...MK12MOD1_srch_1 looks like now their is a correct MK 12 mod 1 on the market now for those interested. Not quite fully correct. The Mod 1 has the Ergo grip not the standard A2 grip. VFC guns are very detailed and they're up to date with modern firearms, but their internals are still a little iffy. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Not quite fully correct. The Mod 1 has the Ergo grip not the standard A2 grip. VFC guns are very detailed and they're up to date with modern firearms, but their internals are still a little iffy. Their internals are iffy? How so? Their cylinder components are some of the best in the industry. Ive run their pistons for well over 100k rounds. Their gearsets function just fine up to 400 fps even with the autoshim feature. I have a VFC gearbox running the 7mm nylon bushings, stock components minus a slight reshim of the bevel gear height at 350 fps and 24 rounds per second that passed 130k rounds a month ago. Their hopup buckings are decent but can be upgraded just like on basically every other out of the box rifle. The hopup units are wonderfully constructed and feature an excellent airseal. So in closing, what are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Their internals are iffy? How so? Their cylinder components are some of the best in the industry. Ive run their pistons for well over 100k rounds. Their gearsets function just fine up to 400 fps even with the autoshim feature. I have a VFC gearbox running the 7mm nylon bushings, stock components minus a slight reshim of the bevel gear height at 350 fps and 24 rounds per second that passed 130k rounds a month ago. Their hopup buckings are decent but can be upgraded just like on basically every other out of the box rifle. The hopup units are wonderfully constructed and feature an excellent airseal. So in closing, what are you talking about? Ownage!!! I'm glad to hear that your VFC is running great. I wanted an Avalon Mk.18 Mod.0 so bad but had a better offer on a G&P so..... Either way the SPR looks great. Throw on a Harris 6''-9'' bipod and a Leupold M3(replica of course) and you're set.. -Luis Link to post Share on other sites
birchm Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I like VFC's attention to detail, (besides the SR-16 markings on the SR-15). Had I not gotten a G&P, VFC would be next on my list. On another note, though this Mk12 is the first high end MK12, I personally prefer the Mod 0. The first Mk12? Hasn't G&P been making these for years now? They even have it in GBB form... Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Ownage!!! I'm glad to hear that your VFC is running great. I wanted an Avalon Mk.18 Mod.0 so bad but had a better offer on a G&P so..... Either way the SPR looks great. Throw on a Harris 6''-9'' bipod and a Leupold M3(replica of course) and you're set.. -Luis Meh, wasnt mean to be ownage of any sort. It was meant to be posted as FACTS instead of hearsay and conjecture like Hispeed has posted in the past concerning VFC internals. I personally own six VFC rifles and none of them have given me any problems. Ive worked on well over 60 VFC rifles and again, all of the components were top notch except for early issues with the VFC 416 switch harness. Link to post Share on other sites
tbsix Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I'll stick with my MOD 0, lokks much better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Trap Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Just to add the other side to the VFC internals debate, the bushings in my AKSU cracked on the guns first outing. Everything else in there seems to be rock solid tho. Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I personally own six VFC rifles and none of them have given me any problems. Ive worked on well over 60 VFC rifles and again, all of the components were top notch except for early issues with the VFC 416 switch harness. I have owned 3 and the new internals are definitely great. I had a 416 that was fine, but my SCAR has had some serious problems. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Not quite fully correct. The Mod 1 has the Ergo grip not the standard A2 grip. VFC guns are very detailed and they're up to date with modern firearms, but their internals are still a little iffy. Your post is all kinds of fail. SPR grips and stocks vary like snowflakes. I've seen collapsing stocks and all sorts of pistol grips, even the PSG-styled one. And no, no picture. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Your post is all kinds of fail. SPR grips and stocks vary like snowflakes. I've seen collapsing stocks and all sorts of pistol grips, even the PSG-styled one. And no, no picture. Sorry. Mk12 Mod 1 with standard A2 pistol grip right here: https://ssl31.pair.com/padef/gobbels/images...%20SIDE_WEB.JPG Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Your post is all kinds of fail. SPR grips and stocks vary like snowflakes. I've seen collapsing stocks and all sorts of pistol grips, even the PSG-styled one. And no, no picture. Sorry. SOrry to drag off topic, but have ya ever seen a PRS stock or a MIAD on one? Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 No, but I wouldn't be surprised if they exist. *edit - after talking with some SEAL reps at the last local demo they had, it's all up to individual preference for those - whatever gives them the best cheekweld and grip. They indicated that they 'own' the rifles, not sure how true that is but my understanding is that they're not pulled willy-nilly from an arsenal rack. Link to post Share on other sites
CPT-Federal Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 SOrry to drag off topic, but have ya ever seen a PRS stock or a MIAD on one? I have seen both the PRS and the MIAD on custom-made mk12, most of which are civilian owned... ie, haven't seen issued rifles with PRS, that I know of. Link to post Share on other sites
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