RacingManiac Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/goods.php?id=6163 Not owning a 5-7, not sure how this supposed to work...but hmm.... Link to post Share on other sites
nachostheclown Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I don't own a TM 5.7 so I'm not sure how it's put together, but on my real steel the steel slide has a polymer cover over it. It's not something you can really see unless you disassemble the weapon. A pic of the slide off my RS Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I know the theory for how the RS was made, not sure how the TM one is made, and what is inplace of the metal frame right now... Link to post Share on other sites
nachostheclown Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 My bad. From your title I thought you where asking the opposite question. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'd order one, but I think shipping would cost almost as much as the slide... we'll see how I handle the temptation, although I'm not entirely sure the TM needs it I'm pretty sure the one in there is of decent enough metal, I'm too lazy to pull it out after a 19 hour drive.. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Is the point just to reinforce the slide? They should make a metal outer barrel first XD. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 They should make a metal outer barrel first XD. Yes they should Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yes they should there already are metal barrels available. http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=27928 Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 1, Is the point just to reinforce the slide? 2, They should make a metal outer barrel first XD. 1, I suppose it is. 2, As venom points out there are plenty of them on the market. Including the original. More importantly, why oh why have they made it at all? How can they justify this? I agree that the 'week spot', is potentially on the front of the original plastic one, just below the muzzle, but Marui have taken care of this with a very clever 'suspension' system. I doubt the original will ever snap out. This is an utterly pointless item. Shame on you 'Creation'. Go back to the drawing board & make us something useful. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 ...like a CCW threaded barrel. this is useless. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 They are just imitating reality.... Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wild stab but wouldn't this improve recoil if it adds weight to the slide? Seems like lack of kick is something the Marui 5-7 has been often criticised for. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 baffling that, because it kicks like a mofo. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 baffling that, because it kicks like a mofo. It does blow some, don't it. I think stealth was using a bit of his well known & patented sarcasm. The additional weight would just slow the action down further. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wild stab but wouldn't this improve recoil if it adds weight to the slide? Most likely this. Since 134a is all that appears to be commonly available in Japan it would seem logical that a manufacturer might make something that could increase the kick on a GBB, although it would really depend on how well 134a would cope with moving additional weight in a slide. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I think stealth was using a bit of his well known & patented sarcasm. The additional weight would just slow the action down further. Nope. A heavier item travelling slower will yeild a greater percieved kick than a lighter one travelling faster. If the gun cycles quickly but with little force (like a hicapa does) then it might give improved feel to add weight, slow things down a little, but offer greater perceived recoil, especially with 134a. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Nope. A heavier item travelling slower will yeild a greater percieved kick than a slower one travelling faster. If the gun cycles quickly but with little force (like a hicapa does) then it might give improved feel to add weight, slow things down a little, but offer greater perceived recoil, especially with 134a. Interesting point of view. One thing's for sure, all things being equal, the additional weight will slow it down. Either way, the 5-7 really don't need no more 'blow back', on green. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Either way, the 5-7 really don't need no more 'blow back', on green. You're still missing the point that 134a is what is commonly available in Japan unlike here where green gas is what is commonly available and as a result could be a worthwhile product for Creation to do if they export them to there. Probably not as 'utterly pointless' as you suggest Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 And plastic will break quicker on green anyway....which is probably what this product markets to.... Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 You're still missing the point that 134a is what is commonly available in Japan unlike here where green gas is what is commonly available and as a result could be a worthwhile product for Creation to do if they export them to there. Probably not as 'utterly pointless' as you suggest Yeah, I spose you are right, I am seeing it from my point of view. However, if the object is just to add weight, surely their is a better/cheaper way than an ally replacement for this particular part? Small sticky backed lead strips on the inside of the slide? Oh no, lead is probably a bad idea, not rhos complaint. But you get the idea. Molding putty, into the relevant areas would cost next to nothing & achieve a similar weight increase. So, I'm afraid, my initial thoughts still stand, this is useless rubbish, absolutely pointless. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Kretschmer Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 My bet is that the Creation one is actually lighter than the original... the inner slide on the 5.7 is japanese pot metal (alu-ish heavy metal that cracks on impact, like the new sopmod m4 metal bodies). A good aluminium inner slide, CNC, same size, same function should be definitely lighter. Can´t comment on useability, but it would sure make a crisper "clack" while firing. A bit like a *suitcasey* metal slide ( not saying the original one is) vs an alu or steel slide. It´s also very cheap, so I´m getting one just for trying. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 My bet is that the Creation one is actually lighter than the original... the inner slide on the 5.7 is japanese pot metal (alu-ish heavy metal that cracks on impact, like the new sopmod m4 metal bodies). A good aluminium inner slide, CNC, same size, same function should be definitely lighter. Can´t comment on useability, but it would sure make a crisper "clack" while firing. A bit like a *suitcasey* metal slide ( not saying the original one is) vs an alu or steel slide. It´s also very cheap, so I´m getting one just for trying. I think you misunderstand. Take a closer look at the picture on the link in post #1. This part replaces the front half of the inner slide, which on the original, is plastic. Not metal. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Is the point just to reinforce the slide? They should make a metal outer barrel first XD. Well, it does come with a metal outer barrel. I think you misunderstand. Take a closer look at the picture on the link in post #1. This part replaces the front half of the inner slide, which on the original, is plastic. Not metal. Greg. I think it replaces the rear section of the inner slide, or better say the complete inner slide. Guess it's supposed to be a money maker. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I don't have a Five-seveN (yet), but I assume this has something to do with reinforcement of the front part where the recoil spring sits? The front part is also what takes the abuse as the slide slams rearwards right? So this should make the gun more durable when using green gas. The only reason why I haven't bought a Five-seveN is because safe green gas use is not guaranteed especially with tropical weather. Link to post Share on other sites
Kretschmer Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I think you misunderstand. Take a closer look at the picture on the link in post #1. This part replaces the front half of the inner slide, which on the original, is plastic. Not metal. Greg. Oops, yes it does... I took apart my 5.7 and the inner slide is half the metal I described ( the rear half), half plastic (the barrel half)... Then I´m joining in the "what a stupid replacement part" bandwagon Link to post Share on other sites
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