mig_eater Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I'd be greatful if a Mod could Pin this OK the Definative (well ish) guide to everything Airsoft SA80 related, this is simplistic to cater for everyone Firstly don't take it apart more than you have to, it uses self taping screws so the plastic gets chewed a little bit more each time Is there a metal body for the SA80? No, Airsoft Club say they make them but they just take your money and run What can I do about the Susat issues? Use my guide here: SUSAT Guide Can I replace the SUSAT with Iron Sights? No, the real iron sights are too heavy for the supports so they'll break off (taking a large amount of plastic with them) within a couple of weeks What can be easily replace? buttplate, dust cover, cheek pad. With a little ability the foregrip can be replacesd but it requires cutting for battery access, also require the buying of a real SA80 sling swivel and retaining bolt, note the real one doesn't have the 4 little screws at the back either so getting it to stay on is tricky Can I just whack a new m100 spring in? No it burns out the motor very fast and gives a very low RoF, you would need to replace, the spring, gears, motor (not easy as there is no more powerful one of the same size), and get a 8.4/9.6V battery Can I swap out the barrel? Yes, but it requires the purchase of a TM Hop-up Unit, and a bit of ducttape for the barrel supports Why won't it take M16 mags? the real one does! because academy messed up with the measuring tape. it can accept M16 mags with a bit of dremeling (PM for instructions) How do I get the damn sling on? Photos will follow shortly Any other questions search then if you can't find it PM me rather than clogging the forum with duplicate threads Cheers Mig Link to post Share on other sites
Jammy_Stuff Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I've already PM'd mig_eater about the M16 mags so you can also ask me! Link to post Share on other sites
DJSMITH Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 yes can one of the mod's sticky this? Link to post Share on other sites
R22Master Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 There is limited sticky space and this thread does have appeal limited only to SA80 fans. However, I will list it with a direct link in the Newbie Guide thread pinned in Newbie Discussion Unfortunately, if we pinned every thread that deserved it, normal threads would never be seen Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 a new barrel/hop unit also needs an extended feed tube thats a pain in the bum to make, even if you have the right tools, so i just used the botom off the acrapemy one and glued it over an Mp5 hop(i guess it would work with an m16 one as well). Link to post Share on other sites
Spudgun Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 One thing has always puzzeled me. Why do people insist on taking a Dremmel, file, hacksaw, etc, etc, to their SA80 in order to fit a hi-cap mag. Why not just buy a couple of Academy hi-cappas. It's what I did and it's less hassel. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 If you mod the magwell, you can trade mags with Armalite users. Handy if you're part of a team. Plus, you're not reliant on your airsoft dealer having Academy mags. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Plus, the academy mags don't feel as nice as a TM mag, and the ability to use STAR 30rd locaps is always handy. Plus the two acadamy mags I have feel wrong. I don't know why the feel wrong, they just do. It's probably because I ahd an M16 before and I was used to the metal 5.56 mags, but the academy mags just don't work for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Spudgun Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 They're both good points. It just struck me as being odd buying something and then butchering it to fit something that was made by somebody else when something made by the original maker was available. Not that it matters though. I'm happy with my Academy hi-cappas. Link to post Share on other sites
Dist Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 they are butchering it, technicaly, they are fixing it since the sa80 is actuly ment to be able to use m16 mags Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 well academy also make an XM177e2 that i think takes the L85 mags so it can already use m16 mags just not tm m16 mags. Link to post Share on other sites
Spudgun Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 they are butchering it, technicaly, they are fixing it since the sa80 is actuly ment to be able to use m16 mags <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I suppose it depends on your perspective. In theory, all parts of any given airsoft replica (from any maker) should be interchangeable with each other, but we know that they're not. Some replicas (and knock-offs of replicas) are more accurate than others. So, 'butchering it' and 'fixing it' are equally accurate. Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ive put a lot of serious thought into making an LSW or an SA80 with a lot of metal parts etc but now i know theres no way of upgrading the motor theres really no point is there? Are you sure a FAMAS one couldnt fit to pull back at least an M90? Also if the 8.4v battery wont fit in a SA80 foregrip theres no way its going to fir in an L86 right? Link to post Share on other sites
mig_eater Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Hi, ok i've had a couple of people ask so apparently i didn't explain it well. an 8.4V will fit in the foregrip, however to get it into the real steel foregrip you need to dremel an access hatch or something so you can change batteries etc. on the motor side of things leave it with me i may have found a solution that won't require dremeling etc. but i need to check a few specs etc. the famas one will fit but it's identical so i don't see much point in fitting it. I have a Systema 1J in at the moment and it does work(sluggishly), but i just put it in to see and am not risking cycling it more than neccesary till i figure what to do. on the upside my full metal body is looking promising. Cheers mig Link to post Share on other sites
Hissing_Sid Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 The FA-MAS motor is NOT the same as the Academy one. It's the same size but it has different windings inside it. It has a lot more torque and the ability to handle more powerful springs and higher voltage batteries. I'll let you know when any other nonsense is said. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan74 Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 ive got some nonsense thats probably been said before....could people convince TM or someone to come out with one? Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 no Jordan, we cant. TM give not a flying turd aout the uk airsoft market, or even anywere outside of japan, this has also been said many times. Are you sure a FAMAS one couldnt fit to pull back at least an M90? Also if the 8.4v battery wont fit in a SA80 foregrip theres no way its going to fir in an L86 right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> funny lots of people say the academy motor is identical to the EG560. its not. theres an EG560 working the M100 in my L85 right now lots of people also say its impossible to fit a large 8.4V battery. Odly enough, theres one in mine too.. Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Academy and TM motors are identical in size not in performace . I'm still happy with my L85 - P90 hybrid. No flaws whatsoever . Yesterday I tested and I could hit a chest size from 150 feet. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Yesterday I tested and I could hit a chest size from 150 feet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> every time, or eventually? Link to post Share on other sites
Pendra Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As my hands are not rock steady only 3 out of 5 times in minimal wind using .2 BBs. However I shoot don't know how many BBs to set the sight correctly. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrn. Gane Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I'd be greatful if a Mod could Pin this OK the Definative (well ish) guide to everything Airsoft SA80 related, this is simplistic to cater for everyone Firstly don't take it apart more than you have to, it uses self taping screws so the plastic gets chewed a little bit more each time Is there a metal body for the SA80? No, Airsoft Club say they make them but they just take your money and run What can I do about the Susat issues? Use my guide here: SUSAT Guide Can I replace the SUSAT with Iron Sights? No, the real iron sights are too heavy for the supports so they'll break off (taking a large amount of plastic with them) within a couple of weeks What can be easily replace? buttplate, dust cover, cheek pad. With a little ability the foregrip can be replacesd but it requires cutting for battery access, also require the buying of a real SA80 sling swivel and retaining bolt, note the real one doesn't have the 4 little screws at the back either so getting it to stay on is tricky Can I just whack a new m100 spring in? No it burns out the motor very fast and gives a very low RoF, you would need to replace, the spring, gears, motor (not easy as there is no more powerful one of the same size), and get a 8.4/9.6V battery Can I swap out the barrel? Yes, but it requires the purchase of a TM Hop-up Unit, and a bit of ducttape for the barrel supports Why won't it take M16 mags? the real one does! because academy messed up with the measuring tape. it can accept M16 mags with a bit of dremeling (PM for instructions) How do I get the damn sling on? Photos will follow shortly Any other questions search then if you can't find it PM me rather than clogging the forum with duplicate threads Cheers Mig <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i really wish TM MADE A SA80 L85A2! Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Did you really have to quote the entire guide to say that? Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Jebus Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 i really wish TM MADE A SA80 L85A2! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Warning: Post count does not equal penis size, Don't treat it that way... Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Could say the same for you Link to post Share on other sites
Tinkerton Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 pwned. in other news, rumour has it that the ICS L85 will be out around the same time as their AK 74. win! Link to post Share on other sites
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