Fuser Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 So I was set on an EPC until a few days ago when I saw that PANTAC's CIRAS replica costs about the same. After some research I found that their quality is excellent, so now I'm leaning toward it. However, I still have some questions: Mainly, what size replica SAPI plates does the Large Pantac Maritime CIRAS use? I need to know the size (S, M, L) and maybe even the dimensions. I have a pair of Toy Soldier plates, size Large. Also, what size sapi plates does the Medium size fit? I'm asking because I've heard that the Pantac MBSS, which WGC marks as Large, can only fit Medium sized plates. So I'm confused. This is also why I'd like numerical dimensions as opposed to the S, M, L designation, as it seems that this info is sometimes incorrect. Finally, I think that the Medium size might fit me better, but it's own of stock or unavailable everywhere I look. So, (1) Is there a big difference in size between the M and L CIRAS? and (2) Where can I find the Medium size in stock? Thanks for the help. Link to post Share on other sites
dolla billz Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 When I had the size Med pantac CIRAS my large plates definitely did not fit in the pocket so i would suggest getting lg CIRAS. Link to post Share on other sites
Renalan Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I have the large Pantac MBSS and it does in fact fit large plates. Here I would assume the plate sizes correspond to the vest size. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Cool, thanks for the help guys. Link to post Share on other sites
mongoose06 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Did you find the Pantac CIRAS from a dealer, or are you going to buy/trade from someone? Either way, I'd love to know where you found it, because I've been scouring the internet without much luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 WGC Shop has pretty much every Pantac CIRAS in stock, both Land and Mar, except the Maritime Medium size, which might be the one I need www.wgcshop.com Link to post Share on other sites
darkfear Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Scopeandlaser does also have some in stock, but I don't know how reliable the shop is. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I wonder why they don't have Khaki... Link to post Share on other sites
AVELLIN Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I'm curious as to why Red Wolf isn't selling them to the U.S. Link to post Share on other sites
PvtRyan Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Eagle told the knockoff CIRAS makers to grab their ankles, to put it quite bluntly. Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick[PM] Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I wonder why they don't have Khaki... ive been wondering if they're calling it CB but its really khaki Link to post Share on other sites
talon_0315 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Scopeandlaser does also have some in stock, but I don't know how reliable the shop is. I can vouch for them. They send out packages fairly quick, and they cleverly mark the package as "Cordura fabric material" to ensure it has no problems with customs. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 ive been wondering if they're calling it CB but its really khaki IIRC Pantac produces both CB and KH, so I think it's CB. Looks darker anyway. As others are saying, I think that some retailers are a little paranoid about selling the CIRAS unit because of copyright issues. And since MJK is like Eagle's trademark color, CIRAS in kh might become rare. Which is why I'm buying one today, just to be safe. Link to post Share on other sites
Amoki Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 WGC Shop has pretty much every Pantac CIRAS in stock, both Land and Mar, except the Maritime Medium size, which might be the one I need www.wgcshop.com IS it the proper "releasable-cable-routed-through-4-cummerbund" CIRAS though? Or is it just a plate-carrier/vest that looks like a CIRAS ? Because basically aside from the Filipino Tango TCV CIRAS (at least I think it is made in the Phillipines), AFAIK no one else in the market does a proper CIRAS. The Phantom/PANTAC & Milspex ones don't get produced anymore due to EAGLE's Cease and Desist order served against the two. The PANTAC Land/Maritime probably packs as much heat as a CIRAS but doesn't provide as much comfort or ease of movement . Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 As far as I know, the quality is still very high, if not higher, than it was when they produced under the name Phantom. Also, every retailer I know of that stocks it describes it as having a "Quick Release System". To be sure you'd have to ask someone who's used both this most up to date replica, as well as the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites
medic23 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 ^^ scopeandlaser cb is really kahki as i ordered one in cb and had TTailor 203 pouches in tan and it matches fairly well so id say the scopeandlaser is khaki not cb; and ive bought alot of suff from them with no problems Link to post Share on other sites
Amoki Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 As far as I know, the quality is still very high, if not higher, than it was when they produced under the name Phantom. Also, every retailer I know of that stocks it describes it as having a "Quick Release System". To be sure you'd have to ask someone who's used both this most up to date replica, as well as the real thing. ... the YKK zip on my BHI Omega vest is a quick release system too. Link to post Share on other sites
Fuser Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You can see the quick release cord on the vest in the pictures on WGC, but it's impossible to tell whether its functional or not. Well I'll know by next week and I'll post the answer here. Link to post Share on other sites
m98man Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Another great brand that sells the CIRAS is Proud. I have one in CB and I love it to death. Link to post Share on other sites
Filip von Izabelin Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 PANTAC CIRAS has functional QR. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Actually, even the knockoffs of the PANTAC have functional QR. Isn't very smooth, and it would probably rip the stitching but it's "supposed" to work. Also, Pantac=Phantom. Phantom just changed their name due to all the knockoffs that had the brand name on it; but you don't have to worry if you buy from Redwolf, even if your stuff says Phantom it's the real Phantom. Link to post Share on other sites
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