greg Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 ooh, here comes a spanner in the works... i use 0.25's in my TM sig, and get 40 - 45 metres useable range, but this is at max hop. tried 0.28 guarder hpm in it, and range was less. didnt even bother trying 0.3's. its got a firefly bucking, and a pdi 6.01 barrel in it, but like i said, 0.25 at max hop are the limit! Two things here that may help here: HPM's are excelent but need more hop than most other bbs. This may be why you can't hop them. You may be ok with a .3. Try with the stock hop rubber. If you have the firefly 'hard', it is exactly that & may not work so well, in sub 500fps set ups. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
TheBauer Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Bushman My mk23 can hit a torso at 40m with .43 pretty much 9/10 it has a tight barrel and a nineball hop rubber. Ive done a double tap at bout 45-50 and shot one player in the neck and the 2nd round hit the marshal behind him in the shoulder, (this was more of a tester shoot as the bloke didnt see me and i didnt want to use the rifle) Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 ah, didnt know that about hpm's. as for the rubber, its a firefly soft! may try the tm though, but, tbh, i think 45 metres is far enough for me. its either an MED backup for under 30 metres when i snipe, or a cqb backup, usually sub 10 metres when i (rarely) do any indoor work! cheers though Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Yes, with the silencer, the TM MK23 is brilliant. I think this gun is good enough to be a players "primary" if you use the silencer and have enough mags to suit your playing field. I wonder if the MK23 can out shoot the G17 at long range. I guess I may have to do a test sometime, just to satisfy my own curiosity. Good Hunting Well, I'm sure you remember the 'sniper pistol' threads of yester-year where Wally Squad & myself described using STTI stealth assassins (MK23 clones) with pro-sniper barrels, achieving near silent long barreled pistols with the same performance of a g-spec. Depending on the set up, you could get between 400-470 fps. Wally put a tele sight & rear stock on his & spent at least one afternoon tickling the enemy at Dorking with it. I believe it has seen a few outings since then. I went a bit more compact with mine, limiting it to a g-spec barrel under the stock silencer. Achieving 400 fps & using it as primary at Urban Assault. It fit their spec for a sniper, but with semi auto & way more compact than a BA, it suited the fibua style down to the ground. No stock on mine & iron sights meant that it could be holstered upon building entry, in favor of a MP7 secondary. They don't allow 400fps in the buildings. Best kill was at about 60m. This was damn tough with iron sights. A tele would have allowed me to track the bb's for follow up shots. The main draw back was the weight of the trigger pull & waiting for the gas to settle for a few seconds between each shot. Great in theory, not so good in the heat of battle. With that & the amount of blatant cheating at UA, I gave it up in favor of a 400fps semi auto electro snipe P90. Instant follow up shots & a tele site. They still didn't take their hits but at least took cover to avoid the repeated bee stings. I think I'll do a side by side G17 V MK23, as like you, I'm not sure which will be better. It is a while since I shot a stock MK23. My guess is that it should be better than the Glock because of the fixed barrel & lack of blow back movement. If I get a spare moment, I'll have a go & let you know. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 ah, didnt know that about hpm's. as for the rubber, its a firefly soft! may try the tm though, but, tbh, i think 45 metres is far enough for me. its either an MED backup for under 30 metres when i snipe, or a cqb backup, usually sub 10 metres when i (rarely) do any indoor work! cheers though Yeah, lets face it 45m from a 'back up', pistol, is fair enough. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 i like to think so! Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 i like to think so! The .3's are only wringing another 5-10 m out of it. After all, what's a vsr for, right? Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 After all, what's a vsr for, right? i wouldnt know, i use a heavier, more inaccurate platform maybe i do need that extra 5 - 10 metres! Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=1758 Hypothesis this: Will a CYMA/TM GB fit in there!? Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Why would you want to? But it's Kart, so I'm guessing yes, maybe? Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Why would you want to? But it's Kart, so I'm guessing yes, maybe? Ben. I certainly wouldn't want to.. others might. Link to post Share on other sites
AllGunzblazin Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Wow came back on today to find this post very alive with a lot of useful information ^^ ill probally go for the sig then looks pretty sweet and sounds like a good performer. btw my friend who has a WE baby hi capa says gas mags leak all the time at one point or another. i doubt this is a true and its probally down to the gun/mag quality. ive heard of WA being good but not WE =S Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Wow came back on today to find this post very alive with a lot of useful information ^^ ill probally go for the sig then looks pretty sweet and sounds like a good performer. btw my friend who has a WE baby hi capa says gas mags leak all the time at one point or another. i doubt this is a true and its probally down to the gun/mag quality. ive heard of WA being good but not WE =S WE pistols are really quite fail. I've got a WA M92 and its quite *suitcase* too. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 i do get leaky TM sig mags, but an allen key usually sorts it out. i dont really maintain them as often as i should, but they only leak from where the 2 halves join together... Link to post Share on other sites
AllGunzblazin Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 err really quick question before i go XD im thinking of spraying my VSR a camo. Ive just briefly google searched. Any ideas on what sort of pattern and how hard they are to do. I wanna get a nice woodland camo. Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherJesus Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think the .3s doing so well in a pistol thing, has something to do with the energy creep experienced in short barrel GBB platforms. It's unlike your normal AEG in so many ways. If anyone's got a chrono and some ammo weights to hand, could they please get me some FPS readings (make a new thread if you think it appropriate) Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 A.G.B.: Have a look through the Pictures thread here, and find one you like, then P.M. the owner and ask about colours/specific techniques? I found that making a simple stencil (in my case, a lightning-bolt shaped pattern) out of cardboard really helped me get clean lines. Of course, some people like it rough ( ) and simply spray a base coat, and then stripes. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 err really quick question before i go XD im thinking of spraying my VSR a camo. Ive just briefly google searched. Any ideas on what sort of pattern and how hard they are to do. I wanna get a nice woodland camo. Google 'Hydrographics'. Wet yourself. Then bottle out when you find out the price. I am currently awaiting the return of my 4th airsoft gun from them (another Realtree Hardwoods green masterpiece). Quality is unbelievable. The sky is truly the limit. I only ever thought in terms of cammo, until Ben posted a fab idea of doing a P90 in 'Carbon fiber'. When I get a spare hundred or so, I will be doing it. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I think the .3s doing so well in a pistol thing, has something to do with the energy creep experienced in short barrel GBB platforms. It's unlike your normal AEG in so many ways. If anyone's got a chrono and some ammo weights to hand, could they please get me some FPS readings (make a new thread if you think it appropriate) Yup. I was talking to a physicist mate the other day & he was banging on about how much more time the heavier bb stays in the barrel (compared to a lighter one) & therefore more of the available energy is imparted on it, even though fps is lower. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerfall Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Google 'Hydrographics'. Wet yourself. Then bottle out when you find out the price. I am currently awaiting the return of my 4th airsoft gun from them (another Realtree Hardwoods green masterpiece). Quality is unbelievable. The sky is truly the limit. I only ever thought in terms of cammo, until Ben posted a fab idea of doing a P90 in 'Carbon fiber'. When I get a spare hundred or so, I will be doing it. Greg. Whats the story with that? Can i send them say my rifle bits, a holster maybe some other stuff and they'll make it look pretty? Link to post Share on other sites
AllGunzblazin Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Holy **** Thats some nice rifle camo they do there. Im guessing it costs a fortune Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Whats the story with that? Can i send them say my rifle bits, a holster maybe some other stuff and they'll make it look pretty? Yep! They can coat just about anything that is solid & paintable. I've had several guns, including very complicated ris systems done by them. Silencers, scopes, Serpa gear, even an Oakly 'M-frame'. Wonderful & hard wearing. All they ask is that it can survive half an hour in a meter of water, so obviously you have to remove the gearbox/electrics. They can even do a verity of finishes, including hi-gloss, double flat matt & a matt rubberized, kind of grippy finish which is great on solid type butt plates. If for some reason they can't do it, they will let you know & if anything needs removing (like the foam inside a silencer) they can do it for ya. Personally, I strip things right down for them, to save cost & any mistakes. They can also mask areas off, such as brand logos or, say, the numbers on a variable type scope. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Holy **** Thats some nice rifle camo they do there. Im guessing it costs a fortune Yes. But it's hard wearing & incredible. Every time you use a graphically coated gun, you get comments. A silencer can be as little as £30. Probably around £200 for a full g-spec. Typically this would include all the fiddly bits like the bolt handle & trigger guard, plus a scope & mounts. More if they have to de & resemble the item. Be aware prices do vary, depending on how complex the job is. Usually they will give you a rough idea of cost on the phone & then confirm exactly how much when they receive the kit. Unfortunately I can't do photos. TBH their webby kind of shows you all you need to see. Possibly my current fave is the P90 they did for me. Technically the G36 I had done, is the most impressive. It's got one of those full sized, vented ris's. The way the cammo pattern seamlessly wraps round it, is amazing. Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
maverick343432 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Anyone else realized Fire-support now have PDI bull barrel's in now? http://www.fire-support.co.uk/search.php?s...0&submit=Go Suppose it saves ordering from abroad. Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyone else realized Fire-support now have PDI bull barrel's in now? http://www.fire-support.co.uk/search.php?s...0&submit=Go Suppose it saves ordering from abroad. Nice, I've often wondered how that works? Does the 'base' screw into the standard receiver & then the barrel into the base? Greg. Link to post Share on other sites
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