Unit 318 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 look at the magazines sitting right there, they're mp7 mags: http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm216/R...Mysterygun2.jpg That's an M series magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Nobody bother to notice that the box on the last one is JP-41 despite what the manual says? Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Nobody bother to notice that the box on the last one is JP-41 despite what the manual says? What do you make of this? Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 That the person who took the pictures lost the proper manual and was to lazy to look for it and placed that one in there to get you all guessing on the gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well CYMA guns say CM.042 etc... so what importance does the JP-41 have, considering M4-XR sounds much more likely to be the name of the gun? And can anyone find me an Echo1 manual that says M4-XR on it, just in case it is what StarMonkee said? Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Still doesn't justify how it's an MP7. The sights are from a 416. The magazine is an M4 series magazine. The RIS isn't even how an MP7 looks. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Am not saying its one gun or another am just saying that Echo 1 generally put thier brand on the box and the manual doesn't match that at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I kind of assumed JP would be JinPeng. And it would be Echo1 rebranding them. Link to post Share on other sites
StarMonkee Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Well the boxes are already Echo1 branded so the branding has been redone. In my opinion it is something HK base and I've got a feeling its either an MP5 or MP7. But until the big show we wont know. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 But until the big show we wont know. Which by the way does anyone know when this is? Or has it been mentioned and I'm being slow. Again. Link to post Share on other sites
socomsar Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Please for the love of god let at least one of those be an hk417. That would be a lovely aeg... Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 https://www.airsoftgi.com/images/newe1m8a3.jpg It appears to me that the top is a 5.56mm varient. The receiver doesn't appear to be long enough, or of the shape of a 7.62 receiver. The second appears to have H&K fire select markings, but an ARMS type rear folding BUIS. Hmm.. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
brianhess Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 i don't know wherever you need to get a new computer monitor or a pair of glasses, that "m4 magazine" looks like two mp7 mags side by side, there's a dark line that seperates the two thats visible through the packaging. also, in my opinion, the rails and portholes do resemble a mp7--nothing else, no rail system i've seen on any ar variant. not to mention theres no ar stock, the orginal photo shows a rear shot of the gun and it awfully looks like a mp7 stock. https://www.airsoftgi.com/images/newe1m8a3.jpg its a m4 with a plastic hk416 body and a troy 10" mrf and a jg style peq box. 10" mrf has already been cloned and a plastic hk416 bdy's top rail can be exchanged for a thiner rail to fit just nicely with a mrf. Link to post Share on other sites
thartwig Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ok, lets say the bottom one is an Mp7. Then we know it will be ######, cus well except for the TM, there are no good clones. And what show? I havent heard about any up and coming shows. Could someone enlighten me? Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 its a m4 with a plastic hk416 body and a troy 10" mrf and a jg style peq box. 10" mrf has already been cloned and a plastic hk416 bdy's top rail can be exchanged for a thiner rail to fit just nicely with a mrf. Now you're cracked. The 416's upper doesn't line up with any M4 RIS. And a 416 with a "thinner rail" (Which I think you're trying to say is lower) would just be an M4 body. Link to post Share on other sites
airsoftgi Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 i don't know wherever you need to get a new computer monitor or a pair of glasses, that "m4 magazine" looks like two mp7 mags side by side, there's a dark line that seperates the two thats visible through the packaging. also, in my opinion, the rails and portholes do resemble a mp7--nothing else, no rail system i've seen on any ar variant. not to mention theres no ar stock, the orginal photo shows a rear shot of the gun and it awfully looks like a mp7 stock. https://www.airsoftgi.com/images/newe1m8a3.jpg its a m4 with a plastic hk416 body and a troy 10" mrf and a jg style peq box. 10" mrf has already been cloned and a plastic hk416 bdy's top rail can be exchanged for a thiner rail to fit just nicely with a mrf. You are very close. Link to post Share on other sites
brianhess Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Now you're cracked. The 416's upper doesn't line up with any M4 RIS. And a 416 with a "thinner rail" (Which I think you're trying to say is lower) would just be an M4 body. --im referring to the markings on the lower. so if you want me to say it differently: its a hk416 lower and m4 upper. happy? either way it comes out the same, herray. the thinner rail that i'm referring to is the upper rail on the top receiver, its exchangeable, look at any tm, jg, echo1 plastic body m4/m16, its screwed on there unlike metal body m4s. there's a lot of dyslexic and poor sighted individuals on these forums. Link to post Share on other sites
SgtBojangles Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 there's a lot of dyslexic and poor sighted individuals on these forums. Oh hush. You've gone ahead and got your panties in a bundle because someone disagreed with you. Boo hoo! Insulting people is definitely a good way to get yourself into trouble on these forums. Any thing more and I'll report your posts. I still think the bottom one is NOT an MP7. Check the picture. There appears to a battery box of some sort. There also seems to be a vertical grip, but not the one that is on the MP7. That and there are too many holes on the upper part of the weapon (~3 as opposed to ~2 on the MP7). If it were an MP7, it's a shoddy clone... Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 there's a lot of dyslexic and poor sighted individuals on these forums. Hey anyone else want to be this guys friend? The vertical grip on the bottom pic is not an MP7 grip. It looks almost exactly the same as a standard M4 grip. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 No, despite the evidence my money is still definetly on the last one being an MP7 for sure. If all those who say it is an MP7 are wrong then I reckon the forfeit should be to buy whatever the hell it really is! (And all those who say it isnt, should have to buy one if it is an MP7, ) Link to post Share on other sites
brianhess Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 so i've got negitive constructive critism? so what? im impressed with anyone who can function in reality and get upset over things similar to it. i never meant to offend anyone, i wanted to get some reaction as to if anyone else is seeing the things i am. as for the holes below the top rail, the mp7 has 3 sections, only two of which are cut out: http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/produ...G-MP7A1-BIG.jpg and the prototype did have 3: http://www.hkpro.com/pdwright.jpg either way, looking at photos mp7 is still the only thing it closest resembles. for the battery box, i thought it was a charger. i never noticed what appears to be a vert grip there on the bottom, but it could be something else you never know. say the battery? Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 KAC PDW? Here Holes on the receiver would match up, but the sights are different. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 there's a lot of dyslexic and poor sighted individuals on these forums. so i've got negitive constructive critism? so what? i never meant to offend anyone, So you said a lot of people on this forum are dyslexic and poor-sighted, and you never meant to offend anyone? Are you a total spanner or...? Teh bottom one am not an MP7. Edit: Ah the irony of spelling dyslexic wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
brianhess Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 forget it. i apologize, i was not aware people on arnies where so dead serious all the time. ban me if you please since i might offend a few people out there. i sometimes use derogatory terms with people i feel comfortable and close with, and they normally understand what i'm getting across. even though i've never meet anyone on arnies in person, i feel since we share a similar interest that makes us friends. lets get this thread back on track: the exhaust holes on a kac pdw are too circular. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal-Air-Force Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 We aren't serious 24/7. Direct insults are generally a no-no though. Anyway, on topic, agreed on the KAC, as nice as it would be. Link to post Share on other sites
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