cadetrichards Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Hi guys I have decided to change froma dpm set up toa us set up. I was wondering if anyone could help me with camo, vest, pouches, kneepads and hemet. I have searched and theres on topic about doc gettinga molle vest but I need help on which is a good vest without having to pay too much. The most Im willing to pay for a vest is $300 (good one) and have noticed some vests selling for $800 plus, do they contain armour plating which makes them expensive etc. Also Im looking fora newer type of camo like ACU All im looking for is a good quality one that will fit me (im 5ft 2in) I would like a molle system a bit like the one in the attachmet. CHEERS EVERYONE!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
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Ou811 Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 800 dollars for a vest is outrageous, for airsoft. 300 for a vest is a bit overboard as well. Get like a guarder m.o.d II vest they come in woodland black and desert, possibly more. Those are less than 100 US and then you can get all the pouches you need for your airsoft needs. Or just a cheap us surplus load bearing vest, as I find the mod2 is a bit bulky, and Im 5'10. The mod2 in black goes good with woodland, urban, tigerstripe, black, and olive drab bdu's. Woodland load bearing vests really only look right on woodland bdu's Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 What unit do you wish to replicate? Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 none just my own thing but I was hoping to get the guarder mod 2 vest in olive drab I was also wondering if those new tigersripe, ACU's, digicams etc were better than the classics and were to buy them. I dont know anything about US units so please edjucate me on that aswell please, Is it the navy seals, marnies etc. ps: What are the proper/quality m16 mag pouches for the guarder mod 2 thanks for your help!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Ou811 Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Personally digital woodland camo looks like puke to me. If youre going to get ACU's instead of BDU's (I think they only come in digital) the digital urban looks really nice. The digital desert and tigerstripe are also pretty good looking. I believe the marines wear digital camo. Really I dont know too much, just check out militaryphotos.net and find a picture of a setup you like, post the picture or a link, and hopefully Ill be able to tell you what they are wearing and who makes it. As for the mag pouches search the airsoft website you order things from for m16 mag pouches, I dont really know since I bought my mod2 from a friend with 4 mag pouches free Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 how much am I looking at for BDU'S/ ACU'S because I saw a shirt and trousers of acu's for 320 bucks!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Ou811 Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 ACU's are brand new to the public (Possibly to the government as well) I believe, so yeah youre looking at spending an aweful lot on acu's. As for bdu's, you have two options, well probably more but Ill tell you the two easiest. You can order new ones from a surplus store at about 35 dollars for bdu pants and 35 dollars for the bdu jacket. OR you can go on ebay and find a used surplus store with lightly used bdus and buy each for 5 bucks. I just spent 5 dollars on the top and 5 dollars for 2 pairs of pants. They are like brand new, the shirt just has a few stitches sticking out where patches were removed. Then youve got like 10 dollars shipping so buy them both from the same guy and combine shipping so you only pay like 22 dollars for an entire outfit as opposed to 70+ bdu/300+ acu Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 would they have to ship from the states or are there any english reatailers. Btw do you know what the US issue boots are? Link to post Share on other sites
Ou811 Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Um depends who you buy the bdu's from (on ebay that is) most us surplus stores on ebay are located ..in the us though i dont know the us issue boots, i wear cheap 20 dollar jungle boots that i got from an army/navy store down the road. Link to post Share on other sites
Haji Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 ACU's haven't even been issued to all the US Army yet, much less released for public consumption. I've seen a few different boots issued with them, mostly Bellevilles and Desert Acadias from Danner. For a really good boot that'll save you some money, look into Wellco Tuffcushions. Their desert boot matches pretty well. The most current set up is the Point Blank Interceptor body armor, with pouches attached to the IBA (Individual Body Armor). If you order pouches from Hong Kong, you're gonna get ripped off. Its ususally cheaper to get real pouches. The least expensive will be Specialty Defense Systems (SDS). Blackhawk is decent stuff, but it'll run more than SDS will. If you can find it over there TAG has a new line of pouches that is as good as anyone else out there. Its comparable to Paraclete in build quality, and SOE and SOTech in toughness. In terms of gear, $300 isn't all that much to spend on a good rig. I have a gear bag with well over a thousand dollars worth of nylon in it. You only have to buy the good stuff once. Under no circumstnaces should you even contemplate black gear, with the possible exception of a Police impression. OD is probably the most universal color, with Coyote Brown following close behind. Woodland gear is fading from the market, so I would recommend avoiding that as well. Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 how much am I looking at for BDU'S/ ACU'S because I saw a shirt and trousers of acu's for 320 bucks!!!!!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can get a full set of (copy?) MARPAT Digital Camo from Flecktarn for 42 quid posted. Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Yuck - stay away from copied MARPAT, it'll probably fall apart. As for pouches for a MOD II, I'd recommend SDS pouches. They're rugged, cheap, yet they're issued to a lot of US soldiers. Link to post Share on other sites
xRAZERx Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Or if you're in the B'ham area I've found a shop that sells ex USAF kit and they have woodland shirts for about £3.50 Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Ok can you give me a link to some SDS pouches please. Are they used or new? Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Lightfighter do them, but you'll want to email them for a stock check on the items you're thinking of ordering before you order, or else you may be in for a long wait with little or no contact from Lightfighter. You can also order straight from the SDS site, but I believe you'll wait a while if you do so, as they have military contracts to fulfil. By the way, you'll notice that the prices are ultra-low, yet the gear itself is said to be some of the best for the money. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Here you go. http://secure.specialtydefense.com/cgi-bin...se=0/op=eq.html Links to SDS molle pouches. EDIT: Damnit HM! Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Only 36 minutes late! Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 I clicked the submit button and went to go make myself lunch. Stupid internets been ###### out all day long, it finally managed to register my post about 15 minutes ago. So again, i say, damn you HM!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 what about these havoc, they're open topped ones but I like the look do you know anything about them? http://www.lightfighter.com/index.asp?Page...WPROD&ProdID=83 Link to post Share on other sites
Bolleh Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 The PC TX-II should be fine depending on what you want to use it for. For MOUT you should be good to go, but I would recommend something more secure for greenside, however they seem to be pretty popular as something to go on a subload. As has been said, SDS are pretty tough to beat for bang for buck, but any pouches you can find on Lightfighter should be of a pretty good standard. You can also get SDS pouches from Entry Gear. One word on Paraclete, in my opinion, they are over rated. Especially after hearing about the elastic on the mag pouches and other stuff failing, I don't think that their gear is worth the price tag, especially when other, and sometimes superior, products can be had for less. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Paraclete makes awesome gear. However, alot of people tend to think that they're overpriced considering alternative manufacturers make gear thats just as good if not better for almost half the price. Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Paraclete Triple M4 Pouch (holds 3 mags) = $59.00 3x SDS Double Rifleman Pouches (holds 6 mags) = $38.70 There really isn't any choice Plus, the Paraclete smoke grey colour looks great, but IMHO it just doesn't 'match' other OD colours. Not sure how much that matters to you, though. Pah, I used to want a Paraclete RAV, but it's over-rated and over-priced. Now I want an Eagle Industries CIRAS... Go on, tell me you don't want one Link to post Share on other sites
Bolleh Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 Who doesn't want a CIRAS? HaVoC's post just reminded me about something I was going to say earlier. If you intend to use the ACU, then I would get your gear in either Tan or Coyote Brown. Apparently it matches the colours in the ACU much better than Olive Drab. Besides, not much point in having a uniform in a universal camouflage, then using gear that only works in one environment. Link to post Share on other sites
cadetrichards Posted May 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 havoc that vest costs $800 but that didnt stop me dreaming about it last night EDIT:sorry puntuation am teh worstest Link to post Share on other sites
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