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Tested my gun again last night, missing 75fps with the 11.5" and 50fps with the 14.5" as I've seen other MASADAs shoot 350fps with both barrels and once upon a time this gun shot 350, but the readings are consistent always with in +/- 1fps, this gun is just hopeless.

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That sucks man... I would ask for a replacement or something if you keep having so many problems with it. I have had 0 problems with mine, and am in the middle of putting all the parts I got for it in it.

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I got my AWS Sentry on Saturday and have been in and out of the gearbox quite a bit over the past three days. Here's my impressions:

NOTE: Except for #1 below, I really didn't need to open the gearbox. It worked pretty well out of the box. As you'll see, how you choose to wire your MOSFET may mean you never have to open the mechbox. That's a nice feature of the Magpul - very easy to work on.

  1. I was initially getting a very hot motor when single fire and full auto on both 100 and 120 springs. Adjusting the motor height seemed to have solved the problem. Seems a little weak compared to my KWA.
  2. Gears are OK. Not as well versed with high end gear sets so I can't comment, but they look as good as my KWA stock set. Did a little re-shimming and cleaning the stock goop there.
  3. The piston appears to be a single piston/piston head setup and might be the Angel brand I've seen on a few sites. Makes swapping piston heads difficult bot so far looks OK.
  4. My cylinder had a blemish on the inside. Nothing too bad but would have thought this would have been caught by QA. Won't go over the nozzle and cylinder head as it's been discussed a lot here.
  5. The trigger switch is interesting. Looks like it's rated to 15V so it should handle any battery you throw at it. If I think about it next time I open it up I'll snap a picture of the markings. maybe we can find replacements somewhere.
  6. The Trigger selector plate semi/full setup is interesting. I found it to be very finicky with respect to where semi starts and where full begins. Marking the outside of the gearbox and selector plate with a silver Sharpie helps with installing the gearbox back into the lower receiver.

Wiring the AWS Sentry took a little bit of thinking. The good news is the wiring is pretty straight forward though the AWS Sentry could have used another six inches or so of wire to the motor. Not sure if AWS will do this but worth asking if you place you order with them. They seem very helpful. In my case, I added a lead with deans connectors to the front of the gearbox and connected the AWS Sentry to that via the deans connector. It allows the Sentry to be tucked inside the hand guard easily. The signal wires go to two contacts for the micro switch that are exposed to the outside of the gearbox. I found it easier to route these and the positive and negative wires through some of the provides holes in the gearbox and route the wires to the front as before though I've seen where others route it to the outside of the box. The biggest challenge is to ensure the wires rout through the same channel on the left side of the lower receiver as before. Magpul did a nice job of shrink wrapping the motor leads and I may redo my setup to do the same as I left them all loose and exposed.

Did some tests yesterday and getting in the lower 400's with .20 and the 120 spring. Also running a 11.1V lipo. Haven't tried burst mode yet.

Has anyone else tried a 11.1 with a 120 spring and MOSFET? What type of FPS and ROF measurements are you getting?

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I've had my Masada for a couple of months now but I think I must have a lemon.

 

First hop failed so I sent it back, I paid for a working gun I shouldn't have to fix it myself! Hop worked for a short while before breaking again.

 

Played with a friends Masada which shoots perfectly and even feels different when firing.

 

Disappointed with how mine has performed, would be the perfect gun if it was more reliable!

 

:(

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Nope,

 

I bought mine from Fire Support and he from Dingodogs.

 

No idea if they're different spec, although his fires at around 310 fps, mine at 344 so that may indicate mine is non UK.

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I got my Masada from Dingodogs, and its firing 326fps spot on with the hop set correctly. Not had any real issues with mine, until i opened her up and started fiddling but she's firing perfectly again now :)

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So, to keep it simple after 90+ pages, for someone who is interested in buying a PTS Masada (Me, basically), is it worth getting? Is it a good gun to buy and that 99% of the time they all work fine right out of the box?

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I would say to keep me happy, it needed to be upgraded but after that.. sex. If you have the extra money to invest in some parts in it after you buy it, get it. If not, get a KWA.

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I would say to keep me happy, it needed to be upgraded but after that.. sex. If you have the extra money to invest in some parts in it after you buy it, get it. If not, get a KWA.

I'll second that. I have a KWA and it's a nice weapon. If you want a modular platform that's super easy to work on then get the Masada. If you just want to pull it out of the box and start shooting, then get the KWA. I do like the Masada though. I'm setting it up to be my primary weapon and the KWA is my backup.

BTW, I've never heard of any brand that didn't have any significant issues by some folks. In the scheme of things and at the volumes we're talking about, some of these won't work right out of the box. Heck, even my KWA had poor motor connections that I had to fix myself. I know guys with Systema and Celsius that work on it more than I would expect for a $1400 airsoft rifle.

YMMV

 

EDIT:

I re-read my post and I think what I'm trying to say is buy the Magpul PTS ACR if you like it. Same with the KWA. You can't go wrong with either. Both will have some problems and both will perform well. Sorry if that didn't answer you're question. Let us know what you decided.

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So I wouldn't be able to buy it and play right away? What's actually wrong with the PTS out of the box? I'm sure it's in the thread somewhere but like I said, it's 92 pages long and I doubt anyone has that much patience.

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From everyone from the UK I have spoken to (not owning one myself yet) its fine out of the box, skirmish sites in America allow much higher FPS limits than those here, and so to compete with other AEG's the Masada would need upgrading

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It was my worry when I first decided I was going to save up for one (savings which I incidentally had to spend on my car and can not yet replace) that I was interested in buying an expensive doer upper.

 

So I made a point of speaking to people with them, especially people I had skirmished with in the past like SwatMP5man and went to my local airsoft shop to have a look and to speak to the shop owner who is also skirmishes the ACR (Dingo Dog)

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Hey all I recently bought a DE magpul masada from dingodogs airsoft....but im having some problems with it. The hop does nothing, when full on or off the bbs go around 20 feet before dropping. Tried different bbs and also 0.25s as opposed to 0.2s to no avail. Is anyone else having hop up issues?

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Hey all I recently bought a DE magpul masada from dingodogs airsoft....but im having some problems with it. The hop does nothing, when full on or off the bbs go around 20 feet before dropping. Tried different bbs and also 0.25s as opposed to 0.2s to no avail. Is anyone else having hop up issues?

Have you done anything with the hop other than try to adjust it? Plenty have had issues when incorrectly fitting aftermarket hop rubbers or damaging the hop unit if they have removed/replaced the qd barrel while the hop is wound on.

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Hey guys, has anyone successfully gotten the ACR RIS to work with the A&K yet?

 

 

I don't think it's possible without heavy modifications. It's a completely different size.

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Hey all I recently bought a DE magpul masada from dingodogs airsoft....but im having some problems with it. The hop does nothing, when full on or off the bbs go around 20 feet before dropping. Tried different bbs and also 0.25s as opposed to 0.2s to no avail. Is anyone else having hop up issues?

 

20 feet? That seems like a flawed gun more than crappy hop up (which it has) but you can try what I did, completely solved my problems and now half on it hops a .25g bb more than it needs. (PDI W Hold Bucking)

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Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of lemon masadas showing up? I noticed that megalomaniac has had two now, and they both turned out to be faulty.

In particular there seems to be a problem with the micro switch. Is this extremely bad luck or are they just not very reliable?

 

The reason for asking is that i'm heavily considering purchasing one, but if i have a 50/50 chance of getting a faulty one this is a no go for me.

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There haven't really been that many faulty ACR's, also the longer you wait past release the less likely it is that they'll be faulty. You have to realize that you're going to hear from everyone who has a problem, but the hundreds of people with fine guns don't post up saying their guns work perfectly. After using my ACR at a few games now my only complaint is that the hop-up doesn't give good grip, but after cutting a sliver off the end of my hop-up rubber and adding a strip to the top I get fantastic performance out of my hop-up.

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... but after cutting a sliver off the end of my hop-up rubber and adding a strip to the top I get fantastic performance out of my hop-up.

I think I get it. The extra rubber allows the hop up nub to push down further into the barrel, correct?

 

I agree with Lefty though on the quality thing. Most reasons people post is to discuss problems. Even considering 93+ pages on this thread, it's likely not something that's widespread. I've been impressed with the external quality and design of the AEG. The internals aren't too bad either.

If you like it, buy it.

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