CrazyApe Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 A while ago I saw a picture from the SAS Operation Nimrod embassy siege showing an MP5A3 with the slimline checkered handgaurd and large maglite mounted on top of the gun. I took little interest until I found such an example of a maglight in my shed and began thinking. The first problem that occurred to me was battery space in the slimline handguard, could this be solved with a Lipo? Secondly the acquisition of said slimline handguard, could anyone enlighten me? Here is a link to an image of the weapon in question: http://media.photobucket.com/image/embassy+siege+mp5+torch+/pagoda_troop/6255c1aa.jpg All constructive help is appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yes, but you will have to drill a hole through the torch, high profile scope mount and upper receiver and use some good quality cable (upgrade to deans whilst you are on it) with a little work you can also wire the torch to run off the lipo to give you a functional light and give people the WTF? when they see the gun and torch working. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You're in luck - FE just came out with an old slim type MP5 handguard. http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/fe-mp5a3-handguard-for-mp5-series-black.html Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Their is a Chinese kit out for the slim Forend, including spacer. But their is no chance of getting a battery in it, so if your going for a sliding stock it's either the battery sling or Lipo in Maglight option for know. Best way is to wait for the GBB MP5's that several companies are developing to come out. Actualy just thought the lipo battery could fit in the vertgrip the Maglight equipped Mp5's had. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Whack on slim fore end and have the battery in a full stock for the easier option i would say. However for the sliding stock it would need to be a lipo in the front handguard. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Their is no space for a lipo in the slim forend. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 So a battery bag or external holder or a full stock would be the better option i would say. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 It also depends on how exact you want to be. If you want a proper stanag sight mount, expect to pay anywhere from about £100 for one. It will be proper steel, and not monkey metal like the TM high rise mount, and there is a difference in the way that they mount the sights, as the tm has a flat rail, which is not the end of the world, as this is very easily adaptable to mount a light. Another way that maglights were attached to the earlier slimline foregrips was by drilling two holes in the underside of the grip, to which were bolted mounts (such as scope mounts) to hold the maglight under the forgrip pre surefire! Now, where to put the battery? That is the biggest problem. You can use the methods mentioned above, lipo in the maglight is a little more complicated to do, but looks great. Solid stock solves the problem the easiest. Here is one more suggestion. Have you ever seen an airsoft MP5K? They have a V3 gearbox, and have the battery running along the top above the gearbox (sticky type). I dont know if this is possible in a full size MP5 as it would depend on the body dimensions, but it might be an idea. At the end of the day it is always nice when someone cant figure out where the battery is! Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Now this is one of the times when GBB would solve the issue as then you would easily be able to mount a slim line hadguard to it and have a sliding stock with no issues. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyApe Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 This is really helpful thanks guys. Has anyone seen anything online of this being done before? Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 The smaller the gun, the uglier an external battery looks on it. Just get a battery sling (a sling that comes with a pouch to hold the battery). Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 External batteries look like ###### no matter what the gun LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 That is why i say GBB, like the new VFC ones that are coming out. I would love an old school GBB MP5 with slim hand guard, lets hope the new VFC ones can take one. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Try the VFC MP5, or wait for the WE one. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
flecktarnman Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Wow, this is exactly the kind of thig I wanted to do with my mp5, would be interested if there is any soloution! I would like to do something with her, 4 years old still standard, just lying there with a broken stock, my poor baby. Link to post Share on other sites
Lajjvo Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 I had one of those Slimline handguards on an old CA mp5a2 I owned years ago. Got it second hand so I'm not sure what make the handguard was, but it was really comfy to use. Good luck with the build! Link to post Share on other sites
judgeman Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Didn't Gremlin Gun Worx do one of these way back in the day? I seem to remember as such. Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyApe Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Problem solved With WE's release of their MP5 they will also be releasing an MP5A3 conversion kit Happy Days now all i have to do is wait. Link to post Share on other sites
matt.bee Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 If you're mounting the torch 'Nimrod' style; on top of the gun on a mount it is a Streamlight rather than a Maglite, and is simply jubilee clipped and/or taped on to a std H&K claw mount. (From the mouth of one of the guys who was actually, really on the balcony at his talk before Op Semiramis @ UCAP Virus). Shouldn't be too hard to run a lipo of some sort inside the body of the torch, with a bit more jiggery-pokery to run the torch from the same battery if you wish. later 'underslung' type was indeed a Maglite. SA80 mount ones are available from surplus outlets/military fairs for a 'reasonable' amount of cash and should be fairly easy to modify and bolt on, but that's a heck of a lot of weight swinging about attached to the foregrip. Think I'd go for the on top option myself. Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thinking more about this to do a Nimrod AEG I think I would mount a Lipo in a Vertical Grip. Mount the maglight/streamlight on top but mod it to run on a lightweight lipo pack, can them run a brighter lamp. This would make a better balanced gun with no wires visible. Anyone selling a cheap SEF gun? Link to post Share on other sites
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