Handsome Pete Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I did a search and had no luck. Ive always fancied the hk33, but CA's doesn't do the retractable stock. How do the ksc'c perform? fps? reliable? any help or info would be much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 From what I've heard they shoot well, but with the lack of replacement parts if it breaks you now have a $350 paperweight. Oh and 1000th POST Link to post Share on other sites
lostsheep Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 the concept is good but i've heard they only take KSC magazines which are hard to find and cost a bundle as a secondary solution, can't you just get a metal body (CA33E's are known to be brittle), replace the stock on the CA33E, and rewire? ^^^i need to do that to my tac carbine...it screams LE at me..... Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 well they cost more than most aegs, and they cant be upgraded so if your looking for something for serious combat id suggest a normal AEG plus KSC makes bbs and gas guns dont they? btw congradulations on 1000 Link to post Share on other sites
fal Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I too see it rather impractical because virtualy there arn't any replacement parts availabe, unupgradable, complicated gearbox for maintance and expensive magazines. It doesn't have much collection value either, since CA makes HK33 as well. No wonder there arn't much info around on the web about it. If you really want HK33, go for CA one. It would be more wise choice. Link to post Share on other sites
StewieGriffin Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 For the money you could just buy a regular AEG and a springer rifle for a backup if your worried about your battery dieing in the field(which is apparently the reason they created that gun in the first place). That's the better way to go, IMO, considering that the AEG can be upgraded easier and has replacement parts. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Well I have actually owned one for several months - and there used to be a pretty long thread on this subject that I created.... Anyways, a quick summary of the Positives and Negatives as I see them: Positives - * exceptionally good materials and build quality * closer replica of the real steel than Classic Army's (which I also owned at the time I purchased the KSC) * hi-quality metal gears, etc. * the trigger feel is very close to real steel * the dual manual / automatic mechanism is actually pretty sweet - allows you to also squeeze off single shots more accurately (very effective with a silencer) * magazines are very well made - actual blued steel! * battery location and placement/re-placement is quite ingenious - extremely user-friendly * hop-up adjustment is also very friendly, solid and dependable * its available in sliding stock rifle and carbine, and also solid stock rifle versions * all-in-all, a very well made and impressive piece of kit Negatives - * its FPS is a bit on the low side because it conforms to the Japanese standards * its mechanism (whilst well-made) is unique - so no standard upgrade kits fit it * its not stocked by many retailers outside of Asia * it is more expensive than the CA33E * only one type of magazine available for it - KSC's own make that holds 80 BBs (in the HK 25-round form factor) * from what I've heard, many of the first ones sold through re-sellers suffered from reliability problems - although the one I imported directly from Asia has functioned flawlessly * becuase of its FPS and upgrade limitations, its maybe more of a CQB than woodland skirmish weapon * KSC (and X-Fire) are being quite slow in releasing new models and spare parts - and again, these are hard to find outside of Asia at the moment too So, in conclusion, its a very nice, well-made, realistic airsoft replica - but for several reasons it will probably remain a niche product for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites
tcl Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Get KSC... I have one when they release first weeks and I like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 * becuase of its FPS and upgrade limitations, its maybe more of a CQB than woodland skirmish weapon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What fps does it do out of interest? Anything over 260 is fine for woodland i find Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Mine has major issues actually firing, for some reason! Its the best feeling gun I have by a mile, really solid, really, really nice. But every time I stick a battery in it doesn't work properly; fires 2-3 shots then refuses to work. Its irritating to say the least, doubly so because of the fantastic feel and rigidity of the beast Link to post Share on other sites
Handsome Pete Posted July 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 hhmmm....seems a hit or miss option. ill have to think about it....keep the info and opinions coming guys & gals. Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Well I have 3... One I disected and use for spare parts...however...I have not had a need for spare parts because the thing is absolutely made to a very High QC level. It really does put all other manufacturers to shame and the design is truly unique. The Mechbox is a Version 4 derivative and is modular. In stock form it shoots 285fps with .20. Messing with some springs I found in a box in my father-in-laws garage I was able to get it up to 315fps with .25's. And I can switch the top end back to stock for indoor games. The hop-up clicks and is dead on. I used it as a sniper gun and for a challenge. I have a review of it here back when it came out last August. http://www.airsoftplayers.com/forum/topic....hTerms=ksc,hk33 Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 I have a review of it here back when it came out last August. Hey Guges - yeah, I remember reading your excellent overview - its what pushed me over the edge to go ahead and buy one. Tell me more about this spring... Can you get other ones? I haven't chronoed it, but I think mine probably does about 260-280 fps. But I like having it over 300 for skirmishing - so for me its a bit of a let-down to get out-ranged by M4s. Link to post Share on other sites
needles Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 I've had one for about a year now. No problems apart from a dodgy magazine which caused some misfeeding. I must repeat that the build quality is exceptional and the Hop-Up is second to TM. Its Semi-Auto action is what I like most about it... Double Tap Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 The spring I found was like an over stretched slinky...though smaller and stiffer...it was supposed to be from an old lever arm for a pump. I have not been able to find a spring like that since. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 The spring I found was like an over stretched slinky...though smaller and stiffer...it was supposed to be from an old lever arm for a pump. I have not been able to find a spring like that since. Damn. Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 But...then..I have a $10.00 Caliper now...let me see what I can do... Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Are the internals Marui-compatible at all? Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Are the internals Marui-compatible at all? No - as has been stated a few times already in this thread - the mechanism is unique. Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 On a different note; all you fans of the HK33 might find this thread enjoyable: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87502 Link to post Share on other sites
Guges Mk3 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Bah...Venezula will now have AK's... Link to post Share on other sites
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