joker, the frickin ninja Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Ah, my bad. I thought you were responding to me. I still suggest you go for the Glock 19, 101matt1. The G18c (keyword: c) has a few reported problems with it. All full auto GBBs are fussy. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I'd go for the HFC M190. By all reports a good gun. Only problem is that it's an M92FS... with a two inch long compensator on the end of it. Perfect for a Fingerman impression, but not as good for SWAT. Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 hey man, Im going to say this as bluntly as possible in an effort to get some of this flaming off you from everywhere. Save your money, use the search button and buy kit that works for your impression loadout, dont try to half-*albatross* it man. All in all, youll be a hell of a lot happier with your kit, and your guns. Save the money for the TM, save the money for the GP gear, save your money for the fun tidbits and your kit will come together nicely. Just some advice from a kid that took a whole lot more *beep* than you can concieve. Link to post Share on other sites
selfexiled Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Seconded with the G17/19. KSC/KWA is definately a top pick if you go Glock. Link to post Share on other sites
joker, the frickin ninja Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I agree with Blarney, though, in the fact that you need to save your money after you get all your gear first. Thats about $200 extra to get something that is somewhat mildly effective outdoors (i.e. no black). Slap on a nice red dot. Buy a silencer. Get a vest. Whatever. Gas guns are money guzzlers, from leaky mags to accessories. End. Of. Story. For skirmishing, I can gaurantee you wont even use it half of the time. I've got such big plans for my Glock, though... Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 From the several sedo-impressions I do, I have never found the need for a gas pistol. Im only getting one because I have a holster for a real colt lying around, and it happens to be a 6004, so I have a very very good excuse to get a WA right now....other than that, focus on the TM rifle and the gear. If you must get repo gear, get what I showed you over PMs man, thats the best bet for a SEALs loadout. SPEARS gear is issued and its used, the ELCS is your primary rig, but if you can spulrge on the BALCS, go for it! Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 There's also the option of the Tokyo Marui Glock 18c AEP.... No gas (but no blow back) and fairly inexpensive magazines (which is good, because you'll likely lose a lot of them) with roughly the same range and ROF as an AEG, but not as much hitting power as either an AEG or a GBB. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I agree with Blarney, though, in the fact that you need to save your money after you get all your gear first. Thats about $200 extra to get something that is somewhat mildly effective outdoors (i.e. no black). Slap on a nice red dot. Buy a silencer. Get a vest. Whatever. Gas guns are money guzzlers, from leaky mags to accessories. End. Of. Story. For skirmishing, I can gaurantee you wont even use it half of the time. I've got such big plans for my Glock, though... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is no need for woodland camo, when I say woodland maybe I should have said, around outdoor large complexes. Plus, we play paintball style. As in 50 ft away or less, we always know where EVERYONE is, and if we dont we get a team mate to scout. Along the lines of authinticity about the gear AND the glocks, the gear is completely authintic, other then the vest. They use the same kind, the pre assembled with pouches vest, but they use blackhawk instead of TE. They are pretty much the same thing, just the TE is less durable, etc. The pistol. I found MOST of the JPD SWAT members use G19's. KWA? I hear they are the best. (a little off topic, but at my hobbytown, they have them for 250 USD!!!) I will most likely get my gear first, seeing that GBB's can be more of a pain, finacially and phisically, then a help. Thank you for all of your help in helping me decide on a- a loadout b- a pistol c- everything else this noob has ever needed help with Thanks again, and if anyone has any other reccomendations for a G19 please go ahead. Thanks again to all! Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium Jack Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Things <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you and the 101matt1 that posted a day or so back different people? That post showed evidence of thought, and independent research Nice one dude, hope you can stick with the plan and follow it through. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Are you and the 101matt1 that posted a day or so back different people? That post showed evidence of thought, and independent research Nice one dude, hope you can stick with the plan and follow it through. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am trying, I took a good look at my online personality, and I found this: (all of you doing reasearch) (me being ignorant) (all of you going insane) Sorry about my past behavior... Link to post Share on other sites
cllwayzata2011 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 you dont need to apologize for it matt you just need to change it and everything will be fine and i think that you should save your money and get some nice gear instead of fussing with a GBB, which are very very finicky, and you will end up spending way too much on it when you dont use it all that much. Not to mention the fact that your sidearm will cost more than your primary Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 you dont need to apologize for it matt you just need to change it and everything will be fine and i think that you should save your money and get some nice gear instead of fussing with a GBB, which are very very finicky, and you will end up spending way too much on it when you dont use it all that much. Not to mention the fact that your sidearm will cost more than your primary <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oooh, yeah. I guess I could just use my HFC G17. Authintic enoungh! Link to post Share on other sites
joker, the frickin ninja Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Airsoft Gi: KWA G19 $100 w/ free shipping. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Airsoft Gi: KWA G19 $100 w/ free shipping. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *Starts picking up pennies*... Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Or you could stick to your G17.... Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Or you could stick to your G17.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, yeah, too much of a hastle. Maybe someday... (too expensive too... [gas]) Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 How would a new GBB be any cheaper than the G17 that you have now? Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 For a SWAT pistol, why not try the Kimber SWAT Custom II?? Here is a review: WA Kimber Custom II First used by LAPD SWAT, then I believe other states adopted it too. Makes sense to me! Link to post Share on other sites
Hick Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 How would a new GBB be any cheaper than the G17 that you have now? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the G17 he has is a springer. Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium Jack Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 For a SWAT pistol, why not try the Kimber SWAT Custom II?? Here is a review: WA Kimber Custom II First used by LAPD SWAT, then I believe other states adopted it too. Makes sense to me! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think those are out of production for the moment, as WA are phasing in the SCW3 system... Link to post Share on other sites
c_a_r_t_e_r_3_5 Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Thanks for the update. Thats a bummer, I really like those. Link to post Share on other sites
101matt1 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think the G17 he has is a springer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (read sig...) Yup, it sucks, but its aheluva lot cheaper! Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (read sig...) Yup, it sucks, but its aheluva lot cheaper! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Rock a Glock, or the departments in CT and some of the SWAT teams use H&K USP's. As for your gear. I am on a geardo team called SNAFU so I am sure that I will get *beep* for this but there is nothing wrong with repro gear. Don't listen to the gear snobs that tell you otherwise. Your playing Airsoft..it really won't matter if you have on a Blackhawk vest or an OE TECH vest. There is a nice vest that is used by SEALS for VBSS missions, and is made by AMERICAN BODY ARMOR. These vests will run you in excess of 600$ for the real thing. Or you can get repro for 143.00$ made by WGC. SWAT teams use this vest as well. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Rock a Glock, or the departments in CT and some of the SWAT teams use H&K USP's. As for your gear. I am on a geardo team called SNAFU so I am sure that I will get *beep* for this but there is nothing wrong with repro gear. Don't listen to the gear snobs that tell you otherwise. Your playing Airsoft..it really won't matter if you have on a Blackhawk vest or an OE TECH vest. There is a nice vest that is used by SEALS for VBSS missions, and is made by AMERICAN BODY ARMOR. These vests will run you in excess of 600$ for the real thing. Or you can get repro for 143.00$ made by WGC. SWAT teams use this vest as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QFT Its a sport that replicates combat with replica guns. So whats wrong with replica gear? People tend to say Real Stuff holds up well but your not using it on week long special forces operations that have gone to hell in handbasket. Youre using it for a day or two of airsoft. When your gears fails you, you have what a 5 minute respawn? When your gear fails you in real combat you might pay with your life. Thats why that gear needs to be better quality. Link to post Share on other sites
hauptmann Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dont mess around get the marui sig you will not be disapointed! Link to post Share on other sites
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