M1911A2 guy Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Looking at this photo: ...it looks like the clip is sort of similar to the original garand clip, which was not a mag at all but just sheet metal that held the rounds. This would mean that the clips could be REALLY cheap... Anyway, this rifle looks fantastic so far and I think I'll be getting one for my collection. -WMH <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was a CLIP used in the original M1s. Anyways, I'll just wait until one of these comes up for sale, then I'll strike. Good to see some nice pics up already. Link to post Share on other sites
anagram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 It was a CLIP used in the original M1s. Anyways, I'll just wait until one of these comes up for sale, then I'll strike. Good to see some nice pics up already. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm? its already in sale on hk so its about time to strike Link to post Share on other sites
anagram Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 the part.45 is instock at wgc-shop Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted October 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Cheers for that heads up on part #45 Anagram. I may have to add one of those on to my next order as a precaution. Link to post Share on other sites
nekros Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 The "famous" part 45 for my garand it is on its way. GNG replaced it without costs, exception made of shipping costs.... By the way, the picture for part #45 you can find in WGC is not the part 45 only. If they sell everything shown in the picture, they are including parts #43, #45, #58 , #85, #98 and #123. Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Well 350-400 is fine with me. Wonder why it says 240 in Redwolf. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Once more, for those of you in the cheap seats: QUOTING FPS WITHOUT PELLET WEIGHT IS MEANINGLESS. ONE MUST KNOW BOTH IN ORDER TO MAKE MEANINGFUL JUDGEMENTS AND COMPARISONS WITH OTHER GUNS That was a public service announcement on behalf of the Oh For *fruitcage*'s Sake, Not This Again Society. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 The "famous" part 45 for my garand it is on its way. GNG replaced it without costs, exception made of shipping costs.... By the way, the picture for part #45 you can find in WGC is not the part 45 only. If they sell everything shown in the picture, they are including parts #43, #45, #58 , #85, #98 and #123. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can you tell us, when you get it, if there's any difference between your broken 45 and your replacement one? Simply REPLACING a faulty part won't help for long, but Marushin were quite good about replacing the faulty part in my Raging Bull with a revised one. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
wrcc66 Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Sledge, I reckon that post hit at least 7.5 on the Richter scale. My hair is still " quiffed " from just squinting at it sideways. A man can throw a ping pong ball and a Bowling ball. Same man, both balls. Which will have the higher FPS ? ( and does it really matter ? ) Link to post Share on other sites
Sledge Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Well, it matters if you're going to start saying a gun sucks because it only fires at 240fps. If you're using a .2g bb, that is low end performance, which I'd on;y accept from springers or very compact gas guns. If you're using an 8mm bb at going on double that weight, that's pretty good. See? Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 No need to have an aneurysm over it though... Link to post Share on other sites
Lindir Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Ordered several 45 part. I hope it is the full block. For my 2 Garands Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 No need to have an aneurysm over it though... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well the thing is; people use the `facts` and figure quoted here as gospel most of the time, and most of the time the figures don't include one half of the variables needed to calculate the actual energy, which is the important thing for all the rules and regs. So the information given is actually bullsh*t a lot of the time, and seeing as people are only after accurate info to make comparisons - that are impossible because of this - then it seems a pretty good topic to have an aneurism over. If that's your idea of a good time. Anyway. Has anyone received that replacement part 45 yet by any chance? I'd love to know if it is actually a replacement, or an upgrade Cheers all, this thread has been most helpful as I'm sure everyone will agree. Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Oh no, believe me I understand where sledge is coming from. Just never really seen the reason to flip out on someone by typing in big bold case. IMO just makes you look as dumb as the next guy that posts misleading information. As for the garand, I think I'm going to hold out on buying one for now. Just seems like a slight hassle for the price. This thread has been very helpful though. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I know what you mean, but at the end of the day it's a garand. It's got to be done! I think it's good to say it though, even in massive caps as it's not only wrong but actually `damages` the truth of the matter in a lot of cases. Just my personal though. Link to post Share on other sites
EvilCookie Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Yea I know what you mean. Just because its a garand I feel like adding it to the shopping cart and checking out. But its just soo much money for a gun that you need to take apart, tighten, and replace a certain part. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 I for one am hoping HK retailers will offer to do this for us for a good price, it's not a lot of work for the experienced but could be a nightmare for someone like me, about to embark on my first custom project Link to post Share on other sites
wrcc66 Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 I've put at least 30 mags through mine so far and it was second hand !!. If and when my part 45 goes I will just get another one and shove it in and carry on. After all, it's a Garrand and it's GBB :) , and it has ejecting clip/mag/BB recepticle etc, etc. :) The gun is just marvelous, it is what we all have been waiting for surely ?, if I have read all the other threads correctly we have been begging someone to make one of these for ages. I for one am absolutely ecstatic that they did and I have been able to buy one to enjoy so much. I love it !!!! My 2p worth Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well the thing is; people use the `facts` and figure quoted here as gospel most of the time, and most of the time the figures don't include one half of the variables needed to calculate the actual energy, which is the important thing for all the rules and regs. So the information given is actually bullsh*t a lot of the time, and seeing as people are only after accurate info to make comparisons - that are impossible because of this - then it seems a pretty good topic to have an aneurism over. If that's your idea of a good time. Anyway. Has anyone received that replacement part 45 yet by any chance? I'd love to know if it is actually a replacement, or an upgrade Cheers all, this thread has been most helpful as I'm sure everyone will agree. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Absolutely - The "My gun does 300fps yours only does 250fps" and "My gun can use green gas and yours can't" are the two most perputated airsoft myths. Without ambient temperature, gas used AND BB weight, any fps figures are totally worthless. And ANY gas gun can withstand Green Gas/Propane/Red Gas/Nuclear Fision (well maybe not the last one) if the ambient temperature is low enough... Perputating falsehoods and misinformation DOES need stamping on... +1 (virtual, he's got a ridiculous rep total already ) for Sledge for doing so! Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
nekros Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Sure snowman, I hope to have it tomorrow and I will post the results.. It is good to know your experience with the Raging Bull. rgds, Can you tell us, when you get it, if there's any difference between your broken 45 and your replacement one? Simply REPLACING a faulty part won't help for long, but Marushin were quite good about replacing the faulty part in my Raging Bull with a revised one. Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to post Share on other sites
Lindir Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 It's an upgrade the part is not made of the same metal it seems, and it is the full block not only the part 45. Link to post Share on other sites
nekros Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 As Lindir says and I have said before, the replacement includes parts #43, #45, #58 , #85, #98 and #123. Apparently the material used in the replacement it is better or the part is better finished. After fixing the gun, re-lubing all the internals and tighten all the screws, I was ready to fire a few magazines ( I shot 6 full magazines ): 1) Gas used: American Eagle summer version. This is the weakest gas I can find locally. I know that I should use HFC134a with this gun.... 2) BB's used: Marushin 0.34g 8mm. My conclussions after the fix: a) My impression is that the gun is firing better than when I used it for the first time. b ) I can not say anything about FPS as long I do not have any chronometer, but I shot to the metal door ( fire prevention door) and the BB did a nice dent. The BB itself was broken into two halves. So for me, it is powerful enough. c) I can not say nothing about range or precision as long all the shots were fired within 1.5 meter (indoors). I will test it in the field next weekend, I hope. So, in principle the gun is performing well. Besides that, it is beautiful toy. I hope that it will give me a difficult time when I have to choose between my Thompson and the Garand when I go for a game.. rgds, Nekros Link to post Share on other sites
wrcc66 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Just got my replacement parts ( ordered them just in case ) I have been treating it with kid gloves i admit but must be about 50 clips/mags so far. I have done the 8 shots one after the other fast time. 8 shots with the 5sec break between, and the eject happens every time. Was shooting high to start with but adjusted the hop and now within 5 to 10 mm every time over 30 ft using .34g. It is soooo sweet Link to post Share on other sites
wrcc66 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Well, it matters if you're going to start saying a gun sucks because it only fires at 240fps. If you're using a .2g bb, that is low end performance, which I'd on;y accept from springers or very compact gas guns. If you're using an 8mm bb at going on double that weight, that's pretty good. See? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, I see what you mean ( I think ). If you take my analogy, if you can get 240fps for a bowling ball for the the same gas power that it takes to get a ping pong ball to that Fps, then the bowling ball owner shouldn't be moaning, his " arm " is way up there with the best. Link to post Share on other sites
JonathonBarton Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Another user's experience. Using Propane with an Airsoft Innovations Propane Adaptor, 68*F outside, 5450' elevation (giving air density around .99 kg/m3, compared to 1.2 kg/m3 at sea level), Marushin .34g BBs near Denver, Colorado, USA. I'm not sure how to post my results (which do not violate any law in my home jurisdiction) that won't also run the risk of getting the thread locked for my cousins across the pond, so I will try to tread lightly and let the reader do the math. First, the Garand doesn't like to hold Propane. It will, but only briefly. Propane runs (I believe) around ~150 PSI vs R134a's ~70 PSI. You guys can work out what the FPS is based on the calculated 4.1 joules. *ACK* Don't try this at home, kids...no matter which side of the pond you live on. As it sits, it's NOT a gun legal to skirmish with anywhere that I know of. Heck of a nice backyard plinker, though - even if your backyard is a couple hundred feet across. Half a bag of BBs later, still no issues with the reliability - though I have one clip (out of 4) that doesn't like to stay seated. I push it in, it springs out. I push it in, it springs out. I feel like Homer Simpson, I push it in, it springs out. I grumble "WHY, YOU LITTLE!", I push it in, it stays in. I have a spreadsheet that uses velocity/drag/time/distance (the origin of which started with Covert of Canton's "0.2 vs 0.25" spreadsheet last spring) and the calculated energy for a 0.34g 8mm BB drops to 1.00 joules at 31 meters distance. I also sanded the original dark finish off, and restained with a Honey Oak stain to match the color of the wood in the 1942 vintage Garand ads I have in my loft. Here's the finished product next to my Sun Project M40A1XB. I'm looking forward to figuring out the fittings necessary to connect the Garand to my external CO2 rig, so I can modulate the pressure down to a substantially more reasonable level to go skirmishing with. There are 3 people with Marushin Garands here in Colorado, and we've learned the trick to making it a skirmishable gun with the clip ejecting feature. You need to COUNT YOUR SHOTS. We've all gotten VERY good at snatching the empty clip out of midair and pocketing it when it ejects. Link to post Share on other sites
TDS Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'm looking forward to figuring out the fittings necessary to connect the Garand to my external CO2 rig, so I can modulate the pressure down to a substantially more reasonable level to go skirmishing with. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> please keep me updated on this, if it breaks, its performance on c02, and anything else that changes. I'll be nabbing one of these very soon if i can run it with my external rig and it works well hows the accuracy at extreme range in "4j" mode? Link to post Share on other sites
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