Maple-Leaf Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 QuiN - sounds like you and I have had very different experiences. I have mainly dealt with Recon Company and have never had any problems - and I've ordered lots of stuff from them fairly regularly. Anyways, to each their own - thanks for the CTC and Sierra313 links. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Webbing set plus pouches. German flak vest. German k-pot. Possibly a smock. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That was the case a few years ago, that gear could be used in training I suppose, most gear used to be the Mehler plate carrier with integrated pouches, but now it seems mostly to be the IDZ system. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 doublepost. but here a pic from the new modular ksk-vest. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm, just to clarify, this is what is going to be realeased? BEcause that's a lot cheaper than IdZ or the KSK vest. Not meanign to hijack the thread, but you don't have a specific kit list for a typical KSK would you? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 From what I read on the old KHS forums (now seira something), was that vest ever confirmed? Thanks. For a typical ksk, in photos the following is visible, this isn't a comprehensive list, so there is probably errors. The parahelmet, or cap,hat etc. Mehler SF armour "KSK vest", think it is made by mosquito or multidesign, although they might be the same company I dunno for sure. hong kong police vest has been seen used, although, it can't hold g36 mags that well so its up to you if you want to go for it. Gun would be G36K with Knights RAS or AG36, LLM01, the "ksk rail" aluminuim rail, half way in height between the C and the dual optic handle. Eotech, mp7 sights. If there was a suppressor, it seems to be the knights type. Pistol is the P8, I think it was a special version, I can't find any info on it offhand, I think it was similar to a usp tactical. Goggles also seem to be Carrera, although oakley A frames are used, I think any set would be reasonable, private purchase kinda things. Same with Boots, Lowa would be good start. Holster tends to be a Safariland. Link to post Share on other sites
QuiN Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 There's no exact release-date yet. Some sources said early 2007, but don't know if it's the KSK-release or for everybody. The vest won't be cheaper than the ksk-vest or idz, cause you have to buy some pouches (4x g36, 2x multi, first aid, grenades, smokes, radio,...) or it will look like sh*t. so imho at least 300+ euros. Edit: Here a link for the different german armours: http://www.m-v-s.de/de/inhalt.php?target=p...Ballistik&kat=2 Edit2: The KSK doesn't use the P8, they've got a special version of the USP, the P12 (USP Tactical). Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 No P8? Isn't that what this is? http://www.sondereinheiten.de/ksk/pics/ksk056.jpg It doesn't have the special sights or any of the other P12 giveaways. Also, as far as the dual sight handle and the KSK Rail w/ Eotech, is one an older configuration than the other? Did they start to use the Eotech just recently? Because there's so many pictures with that (supposedly) sucky dual sight carry handle. As far as radios headsets, is that user preference? Link to post Share on other sites
QuiN Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 The pictures on sondereinheiten.de are from the end of the last century. At the moment they use the P12. The KSK uses mainly the combination of ksk-rail and EO Tech, but there're still some HKV's in use (for training etc.). Again, the pictures are from the time, where the G36K with Dual Optics was firstly issued. The radio headset must be some kind from motorola, but i guess they're free to choose other brands. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 There are pics of them using headsets that look like the TASC-1, peltor tac 6's, and on the atxs site there is a guy with peltor Comtacs, but I don't know if he is KSK. Link to post Share on other sites
QuiN Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 He is not. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Well, I have either the option to necro or start a new thread about the same thing (and get yelled at for not searching). But the ctc vest isn't on the site anymore. Are they not following through with that project? As for the atxs vest: http://www.atxs.de/bilder/produkte/cqc405mk1/rig06.jpg Would this be an acceptable vest? Because 120 Euros is a steal compared to the KSK vest or IDZ. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dunno how accurate it would be to real ksk or whatever, although the problem is that atxs don;t seem to reply to emails, so you have to speak on the phone (this my experince at least) and the language barrier may be a problem. Also they serve primaralily to the armed forces. You might find some second hand on this forum; http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...6lr%3D%26sa%3DG Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
poorieuser Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hey guys, 1. The reason for this is that I just have a cheesy Flecktarn LBV that I bought just for a temporary fix. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is this the Cheesy Rig you're talking about? Link to post Share on other sites
Maple-Leaf Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Well, I have either the option to necro or start a new thread about the same thing (and get yelled at for not searching). But the ctc vest isn't on the site anymore. Are they not following through with that project? As for the atxs vest: http://www.atxs.de/bilder/produkte/cqc405mk1/rig06.jpg Would this be an acceptable vest? Because 120 Euros is a steal compared to the KSK vest or IDZ. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That looks exactly like a Tac-Gear Chest Rig - which would also be an acceptable alternative. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Exactly what I was thinking. If the KSK have used it, then it's definitely cheaper than the CTC vest. Although, I almost don't want to reveal the secret, there's some KSK vests on ebay.de going for quite cheap... Link to post Share on other sites
QuiN Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Well, most (almost all) of them are non-issued versions by multi-design. @Maple-Leaf: The TacGear Chest Rig has not as much functions as the ATXS Rig and it's far away from its quality. also, the flecktarn print is slightly different from the issued vests and pouches. Here's a review about the ATXS Rig. It's in german, but the pictures speak for itself. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Well, most (almost all) of them are non-issued versions by multi-design. @Maple-Leaf: The TacGear Chest Rig has not as much functions as the ATXS Rig and it's far away from its quality. also, the flecktarn print is slightly different from the issued vests and pouches. Here's a review about the ATXS Rig. It's in german, but the pictures speak for itself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Necro... http://www.multi-design.de/shop/product_in...-Tarndruck.html Is the multi-design vest that bad of quality? Because 500 Euros for the issued one is a little out of my price range. And the same for the Mil-Tec KSK pants. Link to post Share on other sites
QuiN Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 The quality is absolutely satisfying. Same for the Miltec KSK-pants - a good buy for that price. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Thanks for all your help. As for the CQC vest, one of them appears to be a BHI style vest with 6 5.56 mag pouches, twoaccessory pouches, ambi padded shoulders and the mesh style back with three nylon bars (don't know what to call them). Is this by TT? Is there a cheaper replicas other than the BHI version ($125). http://www.blackhawk.com/product1.asp?P=30EV03 http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,2303466_4,00.jpg http://www.gun-world.net/german/hk/g36/ksksc9.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 I'd assume it is BHI, as the TT one looks different. BHI gear seems to be used alot, they have a gas mask pouch (I think) in some pics. BHI chest rig (although could be EI) If someone could ID the far left chest rig and bandolier that would be cool aswell. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 I might be alone in thinking this, but I'm thinking the guy on the far right isn't German. Or at least not a German serviceperson. While we're on that picture, however... what are the things they have on their knees and what are they made out of? I assume that they're field modifications. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 There are alot of pictures of those things being worn, which could mean that they could be a really popular mod, or preexisisting trousers, I suppose. As for the guy with the m4, it could be a similar thing to what is going on here http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/US_..._Command/seal09 Link to post Share on other sites
Ubar Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 the guy with the M4 is apparently an american forward air controller attached to the german unit Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 It could also be a SEAL. I recall reading about SEALs working with KSK operators during the opening phases of the conflict in Afghanistan. EDIT: Just looked at the pic of the NAVSPECWAR gent that Skarclaw posted. Afghanistan just looks more and more like Montana everytime I look at a picture of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid Wombat Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Okay, more questions...where does anyone find those Carrera Ultrathermo goggles? Because I've only found a site in Polish and another it who knows what. I've checked ebay.de, but still no luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 http://www.lyze.cx/www/vypis.php?id=124 Not sure if thats the site you found, but you could always try emailing them, have one part in whatever language that is, and then below it have you english. Or, you could just bolle x800's or oakley A-frames, both of which are used. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
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