RacingManiac Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 First posted on Taiwanese site Arms-Cool... Original Thread(in Chinese): http://www.arms-cool.net/forum/thread-52349-1-1.html From the vid, machined receiver, GHK WA M4 mag(so WA mag user should be pretty happy). No brass tube in the ejection port like WE PDW. From the thread on the site, custom designed hop-up system("self adjusting" for different bb weight), warrantied zinc metal and plastic internal components(in Taiwan I assume). Blow back force exceeds WA M4. Other than the lack of proper PDW mag, this looks pretty sweet... Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 It says that the blowback is at the same level/just as good as WA, not exceeding WA. From the looks of the comments, it is already out in TW. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 doesn't look to be out yet, but someone had played around with the prototype... btw, just noticed the post also said the mock gas-piston system cycles when the gun is cycling... Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 doesn't look to be out yet, but someone had played around with the prototype... Nevermind... I just realized that they were talking about Wx(WE) that was out in TW. Btw, it looked like they will have M4 and G36...GHK is working with SRC? Link to post Share on other sites
speculator Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Wow that looks fantastic, I just might have to jump on that when it releases. Link to post Share on other sites
Zmarre Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 The full auto looks rather ... strange... Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 It was in slow motion. Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILHUNTER Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Nice! I love magna blowback, IMO more realistic mechanism than WE or KJW Link to post Share on other sites
sigma3 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Ah excellent. This ends my occasional agonizing over whether to just crack and buy a WE one (never a realistic idea with so much magazine investment). Between this and the Prowin mags, today has been a huge win for the WA system. Link to post Share on other sites
jond36 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I know they are trying to match WE and their releases, but with that model? I know people are sick of M4 varients but I kinda rather have a basic CQB M4 more than this. At least break into a scar or something like that! Just my opinion. Don't throw internet stones at me. Link to post Share on other sites
jond36 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Anyone notice the thread had a still frame of an M4 and G36 varient. edit: look at the vid at :11 seconds. It has to be theirs. They have their AK models on the other side. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 if GHK is working with SRC then its brilliant news. Cant' wait to see how this develops. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Looks odd if they're not gonna follow up with 6.8 looking magazines. At least maybe make them fit regular 5.56 AR's and just have a step down to mimic the shorter PDW ones like WE did. I mean the whole point of the PDW is in its bullet. Link to post Share on other sites
GaMeFrEAK1018 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 custom designed hop-up system("self adjusting" for different bb weight) Intriguing....I wonder how they're pulling that off. Link to post Share on other sites
sigma3 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Looks odd if they're not gonna follow up with 6.8 looking magazines. At least maybe make them fit regular 5.56 AR's and just have a step down to mimic the shorter PDW ones like WE did. I mean the whole point of the PDW is in its bullet. I have heard that they are working on PDW mags as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Wisey Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The blow black looks awesome. If I ever get a GBB primary, this would be it. Link to post Share on other sites
bruin757 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Can someone explain the difference in how the GHK system works from the WE version. I'm definitely going to get a KAC PDW GBB, but I'd like to know what my options are like. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Only real difference is in the piston and cylinder interface. On the GHK (WA system for that matter), the nozzle is the piston and the BCG is the cylinder. Expanding gasses push the two apart making the nozzle push against the chamber causing the whole BCG to be thrown back and eventually the nozzle along with it. On the WE (copied from Escort system), you have the cylinder on a fixed position attached to the chamber (brass tube) and the piston is fixed on the BCG. The nozzle is separate and inside the cylinder as well. Gas expands and pushes the BCG backwards, and eventually pulls the nozzle along with it. It's a simpler process, but you get the exposed brass tube as a result. The difference in blow back and fps are all due to nozzle design, which is what RA-Tech is making lots of money out of. Link to post Share on other sites
bruin757 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The difference in blow back and fps are all due to nozzle design, which is what RA-Tech is making lots of money out of. Can you clarify this. I know RA-Tech makes parts for both the WE and WA systems. Is one system better than the other stock as far as fps and rof? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Both systems can go from 100fps to about 500fps using the NPAS. ROF is more determined by the hardness of recoil spring you install, stiffer = faster but also uses more gas. Link to post Share on other sites
IBICO Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 PDW magazines would probably also come out with this one. I saw this one when I visited the shop around may 09. http://www.gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.ph...83&start=20 Picture posted by Yehaw at GGI. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Hell, with that design you could make 20 or even 10rd mags easy. edit: wait, that looks like their AK mag internals. No bolt stop feature? Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Hell, with that design you could make 20 or even 10rd mags easy. edit: wait, that looks like their AK mag internals. No bolt stop feature? sorry 20 or 10 round mags? Why would that be what the people want? Maybe I am misunderstanding you but you mean 30-50 round mags right? And this day has indeed been win between the pro-win and now this ghk!! Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Just from the looks I'd prefer this one over the WE. System looks nicer. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Hell, with that design you could make 20 or even 10rd mags easy. edit: wait, that looks like their AK mag internals. No bolt stop feature? That looks like a very early prototype. The right holes are there for a bolt stop system. Link to post Share on other sites
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