BB Grenades?

[chopook]

Whoops. My bad. Thanks for the heads-up. MPs, please delete this thread. Thanks.

[McMadkat]

Discussing home made pyros is not allowed, sorry.

 

There are plenty of ready made ones available here: http://www.airsoftscotland.com/acatalog/Fashbangs.html

[bullzebub]

BB grenades does not have to be pyros ... they could be gas or spring powered too ...

[Chris P]

1. Place hand in bag of BBs

2. Close hand around a amount of BBs

3. Remove Hand from bag

4. Use a throwing motion while opening your hand

5. Rinse and repeat

[McMadkat]

1. Place hand in bag of BBs

2. Close hand around a amount of BBs

3. Remove Hand from bag

4. Use a throwing motion while opening your hand

5. Rinse and repeat

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Hmm sounds better than the ones I've seen, will have to try that...

[Hissing_Sid]

I had an idea for a BB grenade.

 

You'd have a pile of BBs built into a container in the top half.

 

You'd have an electric motor attached to a sort of miniature "fan blade" in the bottom half.

 

When activated the motor would spin up and the BBs would drop onto the fan blade and be flung far and wide.

 

I'm thinking that the whole thing could be made about the size and shape of a flashbang, maybe a bit bigger.

[Lance Jackass]

It would be a bit expensive if you didnt find it afterwards. I think its best to stick to enola gayes etc for a bit.

[Hissing_Sid]

Yeah I'm thinking an alternative to the airsoft claymore which, if I'm not mistaken, retails for about £100.

[Pablo]

1. Place hand in bag of BBs

2. Close hand around a amount of BBs

3. Remove Hand from bag

4. Use a throwing motion while opening your hand

5. Rinse and repeat

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Is this acceptable in a skirmish? I've never seen it done, but surely it's cheating? Say the enemy are behind a wall, and you can't get in a position to fire at them, surely you can't just lob a handful of BB's over the wall?

[kenshin9]

Is this acceptable in a skirmish? I've never seen it done, but surely it's cheating? Say the enemy are behind a wall, and you can't get in a position to fire at them, surely you can't just lob a handful of BB's over the wall?

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i was told this didnt work. but i still yet to try it and see what happens

 

Thanks

 

Jas

[Megalomaniac]

Well think of it this way, if this were real and you were to drop a few bullets over a wall, would that dispense of an enemy?

 

I say it is just wasting ammo and doesn't count as hit, unless it is alot of BBs like a bucket full of BBs.

[Longhairedhippy]

I'll go buy a bucket and about 30,000 of the super-cheap .12s. we may need to make a trebuchet to fling these things.

[bullzebub]

if they (the BBs) arent going thu a inner barrel ... why not use dried peas? cheap and really biodegradeable!

[W.K.Shuridys]

Gee whiz, the pyrotechnics you're allowed in the UK is staggering considering all of your other restrictive laws! Here in Canada we're not even allowed firecrackers, let alone a device that will intentionally expel projectiles at you. Plenty of other awesome fireworks but nothing suitable for quasi-offensive purposes, and certainly nothing that explodes that you can throw (mortar launched reports only).

[Chris P]

Is this acceptable in a skirmish? I've never seen it done, but surely it's cheating? Say the enemy are behind a wall, and you can't get in a position to fire at them, surely you can't just lob a handful of BB's over the wall?

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Seen it done before now, site owners jammed and he started throwing hand fulls of BBs

[HaVoC]

I threw individual ones last time

 

I ran out of ammo, I'd given my last few to my mate (damnit!), so I picked up ones from the floor and lobbed them while yelling madly. Was fun, but didn't work

[Swift Vengeance]

When activated the motor would spin up and the BBs would drop onto the fan blade and be flung far and wide.

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I don't think a fan would project them very far? I could be wrong. Do you think it would produce good spread though?

[Tripod]

My idea for a grenade would only shoot maybe 20 or 30 of them, if that. It would basicly be a canister, split in two. It would have a spring in the middle, very strong spring. In the middle would have some sort of cloth material, of appropriate length to be taught when the canister was opened. It would be a square shape, and to get the BBs in would be a tad difficult. Haven't worked that part out. Maybe pour them in from the top. Anyways, once you get the BBs in, (or maybe this part owuld be before the bbs..) you would lock the two halves together. To lock them, you would push down and twist it. Then for the timer, it would be an egg timer. As the time went down, the grenade would twist and unlock itself. Unlocking at a fast enough pace would bring the cloth to a very nice taught. If you go take a peice of cloth and put a bunch of BBs on it, put a little slag on it so they sink down, and pull in opposite directions as fast as you can then you can replicate this effect.

 

The overall look would be like a modern smoke grenade, with handle and pin. Pull pin, release handle, timer starts going. I think it could be adjustable in time, but not in the field (unless...that's possible with real grenades?).

 

I think it could work, but would require some good engineering and quality parts. Would probably be pretty heavy and couldn't be thrown directly at anyone too hard. Have it painted bright red, or some other color, in order to find it.

[Chris P]

SPM203 + Cardboard cutout = Ultimate launcher

[Swift Vengeance]

SPM203 + Cardboard cutout = Ultimate launcher

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Meh chris wins

[Warhogg]

As far as the motor and 'fan blade' idea goes - forget the electric motor and just use a tightly wound spring.

 

You could also have multiple 'blades' stacked on the shaft that could propel the bbs.

 

 

I don't know if you can get the overall velocity from a device like this though.

[sprayerhunter22]

One idea that i have seen is you take some of those cheap plastic eggs that you get at easter (the ones you can open) and fill them with bb's. they work allright, except they don't fly very far and the spread isn't great. maybe if you could somehow make it weigh more...

[Meathead316]

hhhmmm, thr fan idea sounds the best, and i agree it wud be best with a spring or an elastic band or something. might have to give that a go

[kiltboy]

I made a gas test piece, and it worked well. Problem being that it will be difficult to make, and therefore expensive. This one uses a bunch of "barrels" in an array. Think of a WW2 pineapple grenade or mills bomb, and each raised section contains a barrel, each barrel holds between 3 and 5 bbs, held in by a rubber stop- like a hopup rubber. Inside is the gas reservoir and slip pin activator. I used the idea from a type 82 Gammon bomb (real weapon) for the creep spring.

 

I made a partial section (only 5 barrels), and it worked fairly well. Just took me about a day to get it right, so I will have to come back to this idea at a later time.

 

I also tried something very close to what Tripod suggested. It used a pair of springs on a cross-shaped hinge. What would happen is the pin would be pulled, once it hit something with any force, the inner "cross" would pop the outer casing. It would hold about 2-300 bbs, and threw them fairly far.

 

Its structure failed on the 4th test, mostly as I made it in about 3 hours, and I don't think the epoxy had made it to full strength yet. This will be attempted again, sometime in August, as I am very busy at the moment. Oh- and it was a bit bigger than a flashbang, more close to the size of a smoke grenade. It can be made about any size, as the idea is very simple, really. It just happened to be the size of stuff I had lying around.

 

I AM going to make this work, as I enjoy the milsim part of airsoft. Real-cap magazines, real tactical movement, and all that- and to it right, you gotta have grenades! Life without BOOM ani't worth livin'...

 

Robert

[airsoftfreak14]

i took a paper cup full of .12 but the rest has to do with pyro...